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#40563
Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
It's a toy for god's sake. Get over it!
I'm going to sue someone for talking about food. The word is clearly a hidden insult at bisexuals.

Of course the real reason is - anything to avoid dealing with the serious problems busily destroying the species.

I've said for years humanity will die before I do.
 
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#40571
BR

Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
Good post.

The boycott of the ONE SHOW is spreading from what I have heard. It is being reported on several other sites and channels.

People have had enough of the Nanny Fascist State.

The ONE show is now not watched in our house.

They can have their dwindling band of viewers who share their extreme loony left views.

THE LOONY LEFT IS ALIVE AND WELL in the UK
 
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#40575
MC MC

Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
Wasn't John Fogerty's first band named the Golliwogs? Clearly the BBC should banish all Creedence records from their airwaves...
 
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#40576
Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
And of course the Mail and Sun and other Beeb bashers love it because they can knock their "rivals" (without noticing that the goalposts have moved and it's us that's done the moving, girls).
 
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#40583
Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
It typical that white people cannot see any offence. Those who were/are subjected to it as a term of abuse have a rather different view.

If our message to those who are offended is "Get over yourself" then shouldn't we apply those wise words to ourselves too?
 
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#40585
JC

Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
It might be an unpopular reflection, but gollywogs are dolls based on black people. Not surprisingly, depending on hair style, some black people do resemble gollywogs because that was the original intention of the designer. I don't know the person who Carol Thatcher was referring to, but if she had that appearance then the statement is more one of fact than of racial abuse.

Some white girls are referred to as Barbie Dolls. As there are now black Barbie dolls, if a black girl is referred to as a Barbie Doll would that be racist?

If we were not so hung up on racism and seeing offence in virtually everything, we'd all be much happier.
 
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#40586
Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
It reeks to me of the "Obama is the first black President" crap - reflecting the racism in the listener, not the talker.

The point is that those considering skin tint a problem were mad and should be despised. Not encouraged.
 
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#40592
Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
It reeks to me of the "Obama is the first black President" crap - reflecting the racism in the listener, not the talker.

The point is that those considering skin tint a problem were mad and should be despised. Not encouraged.

On Obama; there is a world of difference between "It ought not to matter" and "It doesn't matter".

I agree with the first but unfortunately the latter prevails.
 
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#40593
Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
I actually think it DOESN'T matter to 99.9% of the thinking world and we must not allow ourselves to bow to the stupids.

Those of us with brains (a point made to me by one of my best friends when he was round for dinner last weeks who happens to be black) feel "who cares what colour his skin is - is he any good?".
 
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#40596
Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
I actually think it DOESN'T matter to 99.9% of the thinking world and we must not allow ourselves to bow to the stupids.

Those of us with brains (a point made to me by one of my best friends when he was round for dinner last weeks who happens to be black) feel "who cares what colour his skin is - is he any good?".


Unfortunately 99.9% of the
  • thinking
  • world is a minority.

    I say again there is a world of difference between "ought" and "does". We are dealing with the world as it is not as we wish it to be.
     
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    #40597
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    Ah, the rule of the biased majority. Fair enough if that's what you want Zoo!
     
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    #40599
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    JK2006 wrote:
    Ah, the rule of the biased majority. Fair enough if that's what you want Zoo!
    When did I write that is what I want?
     
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    #40635
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    Having now seen a picture of the tennis player in question i can see what was meant. His hairstyle is pure gollie. Incidentally its not the loony left that make a meal of political correctness its the nutty right like the daily mail who make stoies where thereare none. The labour party is not the loony left. Its now the stalinist right. These are the offspring of the tankies that were in the old communist party in the fifties and sixties. They had all read 1984 by the tie they were ten and now they are reenacting it.Have no illusions that cameron will be any better. The whole argument is being stirred to destabiise the BBC it is led by the right aided by the worlds most evil man "The Dirty Digger".Incidentally i hear that "Little Black Sambo " is still in print and on sale freely on amazon.Boycott anyone??
     
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    #40639
    JC

    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    The problem with people saying that Cameran won't be any better is that it's like saying we needn't bother voting. That leaves only Labour supporters, and yet more years of Labour gloom.

    You cannot oppose Brown by saying that there is no alternative. You can only oppose him by voting for the only party that has a realistic chance of booting him out.
     
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    #40656
    AmazedReality

    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    What you white people are failing to see with the golliwog row and to be honest i think this is deliberate because there is a racist lurking inside you all, is this. Golliwog was once a doll, it then became an offensive term used to belittle black people and it still is being used to do so.

    Barbie doll is not systematically used to belittle women is it ?

    How about we start referring to women as c*** after all it's just a sequence of letters that don't mean anything.

    True colours are showing at last and that is why this row is important. Well done BBC for once.
     
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    #40659
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    AmazedReality wrote:
    What you white people are failing to see with the golliwog row.....

    What makes you assume that we are all white people ?

    Oh I guess if I was black I would have said "We is all white people"
     
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    #40660
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    That's quite enough Mike (though it did make me laugh). Back to the green room with you.
     
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    #40661
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    I owned a golliwog as a child. Does that make me a racist because i am white? The previous correspondent started their thread with the words "The problem with you white people". Reminds me of "Love thy Neighbour" and the arguements between Bill and Eddie.There is black racism as well as white ,probably the worst example being Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe and his attitude towards the white farmers there. Even in South Africa things seem to be going along the road to tribalism. This is racism too only its black against black. The sooner we all realise we are all the same and stop dividing ourselves along religious and national divides then the better it will be for everyone.
     
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    #40663
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    giles2008 wrote:
    I owned a golliwog as a child. Does that make me a racist because i am white? The previous correspondent started their thread with the words "The problem with you white people". Reminds me of "Love thy Neighbour" and the arguements between Bill and Eddie.There is black racism as well as white ,probably the worst example being Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe and his attitude towards the white farmers there. Even in South Africa things seem to be going along the road to tribalism. This is racism too only its black against black. The sooner we all realise we are all the same and stop dividing ourselves along religious and national divides then the better it will be for everyone.

    *pops head out of green room*

    Robert Mugabe is now the weather forecaster for Zimbabwe.

    "Red sky at night. Your farm is alight"
     
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    #40664
    Re:Stupid stupid stupid... the golliwog drama 16 Years, 4 Months ago  
    If someone aggressively called me a potato, I'd take offence.
    But using the word as a description in a passing conversation with no offence intended is entirely different.
    If someone spat HONKY at me in a defiant, sneering, insulting way, I'd object. But the word is fine in general conversation.
    A golliwog, to me, is a doll with spiky hair.
    Mick Hucknell was clearly a golliwog.
     
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