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CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION
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TOPIC: CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION
#58145
BR

CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
I want to run a CAMPAIGN for reform of the laws - especially those passed by NEW LABOUR which have demonised all muslims and all teacher and those who work with children either paid or voluntarily.

The AIM is to protect people from acts of violence and protect children from unwanted sexual predators. I dont believe the current laws protect ANYONE and in fact only seem to fuel an industry.

TERROR LAWS
Repeal all the laws passed since 9.11 and replace with a simpler framework and clear guidance that people going about their normal business will not be arrested under Terror Laws. Reducing the amount of time people can be held without charge back to the 2000 situation but with safeguards if there is a terror "plot" where Police need more time. It needs to be more specific. Only a senior judge should be allowed to increase custody above 48 hours.

SEX LAWS
Repeal all the laws passed since 2000. Replace with a simplified system like in other countries.

DEBATE ABOUT SEX AND VIOLENT OFFENDERS REGISTER
It seems ludicrous to keep "Offenders" on a register for one crime - and not others. Only those who receive sentences of over 5 years should be on any register and then only for a limited time. Murderers and so on should also be on the Register and treated the same - and serial offenders.

At the moment there is no EQUALITY Under the law. Terror suspects and Sex OFfenders have been targeted unfairly by NEW LABOUR for POLITICAL REASONS.

If the CRIMES are "so bad" then extend sentences rather than disallow any rehabilitation for offenders.

Criminals are not criminals once they have served their sentence ( Though NEW LABOUR have made this so )

If people are UNSAFE to put back into the community then no amount of signing a piece of paper or residence will make others safe. It is a paper exercise which tends to discriminate against people who WISH TO REFORM their lives.

Our JUSTICE SYSTEM is corrupt and favours criminals. We need to see it changed for the 21st CENTURY and get away from the Cold War ideas of New Labour.

Surely a new LIB - CON GOVERNMENT can sort this out.

Out go ID CARDS
Out go the DNA DATABASE for no convicted people
Out should also go the Sex Offenders Register to be replaced by a Serious Crime Register which covers all crimes where the sentence given is over 10 years - but even this is open to discussion. If a LIFER comes out of prison then he does not have to sign any register unless he is a SEX OFFENDER or TERRORIST at present. This is wrong and silly.

THOUGHTS ?
 
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#58150
In The Know

Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Many Bills - such as ID cars etc - will be scrapped by the new Government.

All "Terror Laws" should also be scrapped as they can be dealt with under normal law (inc Common Law) and they only terrorize innocent people (who are often arrested under the more lax rules applied to "terror laws".

Remember ....
1) The ONLY people to do us any harm since Sept 11th (July 7th) were BRITISH, and
2) If we didn't terrorize other people then maybe we wouldn't feel as though we were about to be attacked.
 
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#58159
Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Unfortunately, such a campaign would never work..

´Sex offenders´ have NO friends in either the legal system or among the politicians and lawmakers.. There is no political mileage in it.

Nowhere else in law would such abuses of process be allowed. If any politician attempted to bring in a law requiring a lifelong register of anyone convicted of burglary, or mugging, or any other criminal activity, there would be an outcry from all of the civil rights groups..

What is good for the goose... I would like to be able to find out easily that my neighbors were ex-robbers, were ex-burglars.. were prone to acts of criminal violence... But they have RIGHTS... They have FRIENDS...

Ex-sex offenders, it would appear, DO NOT.
 
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#58166
Blacklisted

Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Good luck BR, but there is not a cat in hells chance of succeeding with the sex legislation part.

Any mere suggestion that zanulabor's sex offender bills were to be reviewed, would be met with 'charter for nonces' headlines the very next day.

And however loathesome zanulabor was, most of the sex laws passed over the last decade were the results of EU directives or based upon lobbying from the UN (with the major players being British 'child protection' rackets such as the NSPCC - Britain preaching to others on the welfare of children is as sick as the Taliban telling the rest of the world how to look after the welfare of homosexuals). The likes of Blunkett and Reid were only too happy to take the credit for them, of course.

For example, the age of consent is still 13 in Spain, but even there the government has had to pass the same legislation making it a criminal offence for a teacher to have an affair with a 17 year old pupil, or for the police to have the right to break down your door to check if you have any pictures of young looking 25 year old women in bikinis on your harddrive.

The only chance of these laws being reviewed and overturned are if they are taken to the European Court of Human Rights (and slowly, but surely, they are).
 
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#58173
BR

Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
I really believe we can change these laws. They are demonstrably wrong. They have broken the key plank of modern living EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW - which became a right in 1789 after the FRENCH REVOLUTION and which the Magna Carta was meant to protect.

Our laws are fundamentally WRONG on terror and sex - and have been since 2001. They need to be reformed back to how they were in the 1956 act. That act actually was passed sensibly and needs to be re-introduced. Modern laws since the 1980s have wrecked what was a sensible law based on Christian values.

I suggest you re-visit the 1956 Sexual Offences Act to see what a clever and fair piece of legislation and sentencing it was.

The new acts passed by NEW LABOUR are reactionary and have been based on the SOHAM hysteria. They are BAD law.
 
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#58175
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Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
I agree with you entirely BR, I just don't think that there is much chance of it happening.

This is a very good suggestion :

Out should also go the Sex Offenders Register to be replaced by a Serious Crime Register which covers all crimes where the sentence given is over 10 years - but even this is open to discussion. If a LIFER comes out of prison then he does not have to sign any register unless he is a SEX OFFENDER or TERRORIST at present. This is wrong and silly.


It actually might have a chance if a few tories and lib dems were brave enough to raise it.

The sex offenders register is wrong and clearly breaks the European charter of fundamental human rights on a number of levels.

Why should a lonely old man, caught 'flashing' in a park, have to go on a register for life, whilst a thug who violently beats an old lady for her handbag not have to? Are muggers any less recidivists than flashers?

Child porn laws being so broadly defined mean that, in the age of 'amateur tube' sites, most men who surf for porn i.e. most men, will sooner or later break these laws, intentionally or not. This is clearly in violation of the 'right to a private and a family life'. How can you have a private life or a private family life if you have to fear your door being kicked in at any moment for what you have done on your own, in the privacy of your own home? (I gave up surfing for porn years ago as I'm more aware than most as to the precise and absurd zanulabor legal definitions of cp). You can also go to prison for talking sexily via webcam to your 17 year old girlfriend. Perhaps the age of consent should be 18, fact is, the age of consent is still 16 (and, of course, lower still in many EU states). Therefore, the fact that a man can be jailed for engaging in sexual activity with his partner who is over the age of consent is a clear violation of the right to a personal life.
 
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#58176
Jim

Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Thanks BR, you write:

"Repeal all the laws passed since 9.11 and replace with a simpler framework and clear guidance that people going about their normal business will not be arrested under Terror Laws."

I would just like to make a small point. Terrorism Act 2000, the act upon which all subsequent Terrorism Acts were based and a truly venal legislative instrument, was enacted in the year 2000 and therefore before 9.11 which was in 2001. I hope you will nevertheless include it in your list of acts to be repealed.

Best Wishes,
Jim
 
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#58185
Francis D

Re:CAMPAIGN TO REFORM "NEW LABOUR's" TERROR and SEX LEGISLATION 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
You could almost suspect that they passed the Terrorism Act 2000 because they knew something was going to happen in 2001.

Almost.

More likely it was more to do with Tony Blair's control freakery and that "9/11" was pure coincidence.
 
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