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So will they question corpses to convict a dead man?

Lunacy. The Indie quotes The Sun

Bestiality and Golden Showers any moment.

what qualifies a disabled person who had never heard of Savile until after he died to be given space for comment. ? Madness.

Shallow probably but,im bored with the whole JS/BS now. Wonder what the next big story is...?

I heard these stories a few years ago and gave them the contempt they deserved.

Again, no bloody evidence. And you can hardly ask the victims in these cases what they think either.

steveimp wrote:
I heard these stories a few years ago and gave them the contempt they deserved.

Again, no bloody evidence. And you can hardly ask the victims in these cases what they think either.

We're coming full circle now. It's these insane rumours, started by David Icke and other vile racist conspiracy nuts years ago, that has resulted in Jimmy Savile being picked out from all the hundreds of celebs who were fondling young groupies back then.

Blackit wrote:
steveimp wrote:
I heard these stories a few years ago and gave them the contempt they deserved.

Again, no bloody evidence. And you can hardly ask the victims in these cases what they think either.

We're coming full circle now. It's these insane rumours, started by David Icke and other vile racist conspiracy nuts years ago, that has resulted in Jimmy Savile being picked out from all the hundreds of celebs who were fondling young groupies back then.

Tell it like it is. In fact tell it like you know the truth when you, like everyone else hasn't a clue what really went on. Your polarised views with those who think he's guilty don't serve you well. Unless of course you know something that WE don't.

That's lovely dear.

Obviously there is air of some "victims" seeing Pound signs, here. But they won't get any money...unless they sell to some Daily Scum.

Having been reading these other allegations of this "Karin" or whatever her name is, this is rather dodgy. Claiming that Mr Savile & Mr Gadd were having relations in Mr Savile's dressing room, behing "that alcove bit". Although she never actually saw them...but apparently it was obvious what was going on.
Karin is also the one claiming that Freddie Starr, took advantage of her. Depicting that she was present at most recordings of "Clunk Click" in 1973 & 74, as apparently it seems, she witnessed Mr Savile & Mr Gadd in one programme & the came across Mr Starr, in another. What was she doing hanging around dressing rooms, anyway? And why on earth, would she have gone off with Mr Starr (to his room), when she had possibly seen Mr Savile & Mr Gadd, previously? Something very fishy on that one. Is she all there?

Can't see Mr Starr being found guilty, on that one. The main case (I can see exploding) is this "famous" Soap star. Mr Saville can't be brought to trial, as apparently the case wasn't brought up, to trial him, but seems the stories have been told, to drum up more "filth" from other "famous" people, who can be exposed by more of the Daily Scum!

Now, don't forget to feed the cats dear.

Blackit wrote:
steveimp wrote:
I heard these stories a few years ago and gave them the contempt they deserved.

Again, no bloody evidence. And you can hardly ask the victims in these cases what they think either.

We're coming full circle now. It's these insane rumours, started by David Icke and other vile racist conspiracy nuts years ago, that has resulted in Jimmy Savile being picked out from all the hundreds of celebs who were fondling young groupies back then.

To be fair - and I am a fan of David Icke - I'd heard these rumours well before DI publicised them. And that's all they are - rumours. How are rumours of a dead man enough to start a criminal investigation?

My own first hand reports on JS was that he was an mere irritant in hospitals, not anything else - or at least, nothing else that they, the Doctors, Nurses and Assistants, either knew about or spoke about - and I'm sure they would.

Blackit wrote:
That's lovely dear.

Cat tongue your got?

Angel wrote:
Blackit wrote:
steveimp wrote:
I heard these stories a few years ago and gave them the contempt they deserved.

Again, no bloody evidence. And you can hardly ask the victims in these cases what they think either.

We're coming full circle now. It's these insane rumours, started by David Icke and other vile racist conspiracy nuts years ago, that has resulted in Jimmy Savile being picked out from all the hundreds of celebs who were fondling young groupies back then.

Tell it like it is. In fact tell it like you know the truth when you, like everyone else hasn't a clue what really went on. Your polarised views with those who think he's guilty don't serve you well. Unless of course you know something that WE don't.

Remember Angel that I suggest a little while back that you take more care to think through your posts - at least check to see if they make some kind of internal sense before you press submit?

I haven't a clue what went on Angel. Exactly. For that matter, I don't know if Jimmy Savile was the third man on the grassy knoll, was abducted by aliens and replaced by a reptilian look alike, or was enjoying caviar and chips with Lord Lucan on the days he was supposed to raping kids in BBC dressing rooms.

And neither does the hysterical tabloid media who were recently caught hacking into the phones of murdered kids and their relatives.

And Jimmy Savile is dead - he can't defend himself from these accusations.

This is the whole point.

And David Icke was spreading these rumours about Jimmy Savile years ago. He also believes that prominant politicians were fond of torturing kiddies in their basements, and that, in fact, most of the world's leaders are shape shifting alien reptiles (or Jews).

And it seems your views are the ones in the actual minority here. If you can't stand any dissenting views from the crap that the corrupt media are feeding you maybe it's time to consider you're in the wrong forum?

BTW, it might also help if you post before you've had your 3rd or at most 4th wee dram of the night.

Minority? That's OK with me. We all dont have to agree do we? Sorry love but I'm going nowhere.

BH wrote:
Obviously there is air of some "victims" seeing Pound signs, here. But they won't get any money...unless they sell to some Daily Scum.

an air ????

More like a stampede !

I'd say NOBODY knows - or will ever know - the truth.

One party is dead. The other party may be speaking the exact truth, or may be totally lying, or may be somewhere in between. And I suggest that, as usual, that third aspect is probably the right one.

Memory is a strange thing, especially when prompted by "a great story". My suspicion is less that it's greed, desire for victim status, desire for attention and so on. And more genuine self delusion - turning a peck on the cheek into a full kiss and a playful tickle into a grope.

But there's no denying the main, major, vital element... it's a great story.

Which, naturally, the media adores. After all, it's why it exists.

It's my nature, as the scorpion said to the frog.

The Indy quotes The Sun and the necro story dies in hours, isn't picked up but this piece will sit on a server forever and befuddled minds in 15 years time will say "I seem to remember there being something about Savile that he was necrophiliac or something".

is the internet already so full of rubbish it's becoming worthless?

Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the front page of the Daily Star yesterday.

A bitter old hasbeen DJ claims Savile was a necrophiliac because he overheard a reporter saying it 20 years ago at a funeral.

This from an industry that was recently caught hacking into the mobile phones of dead children in the pursuit of salacious paedo gossip.

This country is backward.

it's the world were black is white and visa versa.

Thus in The Sun a fairly nice little house in Scotland with a few mod cons becomes a 'creepy cottage' and fairly normal chair becomes a 'grubby armchair'.

in a community where everyone would know if you sneezed (even though the house is a mile from it's neighbours) but '20 victims' could have been abused there.

blacklit..really, Lord Lucan had some style..caviar and chips ???...the upper classes never eat caviar !!

I've noticed also that in every photo of Savile the media use he is either :

1/ a very (dirty) old man (even though most or all of the allegations date back decades)

or

2/ wide mad eyed (as in the Jez North paedophile of BrassEye)

They are doctoring the photos, now?

The smile with hard staring mad eyes, where they've joint 2 photos together, or used trickery.