The obvious media Stupid Stupid to the bare facts/headline story is "social workers should not interfere in the views of foster parents".

But would there be so much protest if the foster parents of black kids were BNP supporters?

There was a bit about this on Radio 4 yesterday (can't remember which programme) saying that this story could be on dodgy ground, as it is not based on the actual facts of the case, which are kept confidential. So Michael Gove and all are making big pronouncements without knowing the case, basing themselves on meejah stories.

As always the case David; simplistic politics; headline slogans and morality.

The real issue in society today; nobody can be bothered with depth.

I bet virtually nobody has bothered to read the entire Secret of Bryn Estyn book by Richard Webster yet it gives incredible depth and insight into the false allegations industry.

Right again JK.

Industrialized Mass-Produced ignorance, by a narrow, shallow, hollow bent-media for greed/ratings/profit, not protection.

Makes the Shallow Ignorant Masses or 'Sheeple'.

"Baaaaaa, Big Bruv X-Fucked her !"

david wrote:
saying that this story could be on dodgy ground, as it is not based on the actual facts of the case,

There has been some info on this on local (Yorks) TV news.
The facts (as reported) are not disputed by Rotherham Council, in fact their representative was interviewed and she said the children (thought to be from Eastern Europe) would not get a fair representation of their own ethnic culture from a couple who belonged to a party that was against Europe !

I should point out that Rotherham is, and always will be, loony Labour !

Now, if the kids had been fostered by black lesbians dwarfs .....

In The Know wrote:
I should point out that Rotherham is, and always will be, loony Labour !

I could be wrong here ... reports suggest that the Loonies are in danger of losing one of their safest seats in the Country.

With ITK all the way on this one.
The question I would ask is why in the UK we are paying for foreign kids? Send them back home,where no doubt their own people will know exactly how their needs will be met.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240762...rs-feel-ignored.html

Wonder what peeps here will make of this?

Innocent Accused wrote:
Wonder what peeps here will make of this?

Farage reckons that UKIP are now "the second party of the North" ??

Thats a good one, IA - best I've heard all day !

That plane crash obviously did more damage to Farage than I realised !

Just remind me again ... how many seats do UKIP actually have ?

The point is that UKIP are a non-racist political party who believe that the UK's open door immigration policy from the EU is unsustainable and that we should leave the EU. The political establishment accuse anyone who believes in reducing levels of immigration as being racist in order to stifle discussion on the issue. As regards the media, there is no exaggeration or simplification going on as far as I can see. If anything they have played it down ; it didn't make the headlines for example. It is absolutely outrageous what that council did.

Hamlet wrote:
The point is that UKIP are a non-racist political party who believe that the UK's open door immigration policy from the EU is unsustainable and that we should leave the EU. The political establishment accuse anyone who believes in reducing levels of immigration as being racist in order to stifle discussion on the issue. As regards the media, there is no exaggeration or simplification going on as far as I can see. If anything they have played it down ; it didn't make the headlines for example. It is absolutely outrageous what that council did.

The point is that UKIP have NO SEATS in the UK parliament !

That is the point !!!! To describe themselves as the "second party" is utterly ridiculous.

In that state they are no more relevant that the BNP or the Monster Raving Loony Party - but the Monster Ravings are probably far more fun !

In The Know wrote:
Hamlet wrote:
The point is that UKIP are a non-racist political party who believe that the UK's open door immigration policy from the EU is unsustainable and that we should leave the EU. The political establishment accuse anyone who believes in reducing levels of immigration as being racist in order to stifle discussion on the issue. As regards the media, there is no exaggeration or simplification going on as far as I can see. If anything they have played it down ; it didn't make the headlines for example. It is absolutely outrageous what that council did.

The point is that UKIP have NO SEATS in the UK parliament !

That is the point !!!! To describe themselves as the "second party" is utterly ridiculous.

In that state they are no more relevant that the BNP or the Monster Raving Loony Party - but the Monster Ravings are probably far more fun !#

True ITK,but had we succeeded in getting proportional representation things may well be very different....do you remember when the Tories were wiped out in Scotland under the same system?...and at the time they were the government!

However if you take their main policy,it does have the support of the majority of the UK electorate...perhaps the majority of us are loonies?

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/17/eu-referendum-poll

I think everyone is jumping the gun on this tale and there is more, much more to the removal than a political party membership.

tsk tsk...readers simply taking a tabloid tale at face value.

Innocent Accused wrote:
True ITK,but had we succeeded in getting proportional representation things may well be very different....do you remember when the Tories were wiped out in Scotland under the same system?...and at the time they were the government!

However if you take their main policy,it does have the support of the majority of the UK electorate...perhaps the majority of us are loonies?

I'm quite pleased that youn recognise the benefits of good old Liberal policies - like PR !!!

Oh dear ... I do worry when someone says "ask the majority" !!

How often do they ever think things through?

OK - withdraw from the EU ... where will our sales then come from? (the majority of UK exports are currently TO Europe).
What will that mean for UK jobs?

Ban immigration - great !
Close down ALL the hospitals too? (because HOW MANY white British work in them?)

... and all those pensioners in Spain will they all be returning here when we withdraw from Europe?

These "one policy" parties have rarely thought beyond the main headline ... and the majority hardly ever elect them. How long has the BNP been going now? How many seats have they ever had?

In The Know wrote:
Innocent Accused wrote:
True ITK,but had we succeeded in getting proportional representation things may well be very different....do you remember when the Tories were wiped out in Scotland under the same system?...and at the time they were the government!

However if you take their main policy,it does have the support of the majority of the UK electorate...perhaps the majority of us are loonies?

I'm quite pleased that youn recognise the benefits of good old Liberal policies - like PR !!!

I didn't say I supported it,just mentioned it can dramatically increase support for minority parties.

Oh dear ... I do worry when someone says "ask the majority" !!

It's called democracy:)

How often do they ever think things through?

Quite often,and on the EU I both live/work/travel there all the time...could of course just invent a few facts lol.

OK - withdraw from the EU ... where will our sales then come from? (the majority of UK exports are currently TO Europe).
What will that mean for UK jobs?

You're well behind the times ITK,EU imports after years of government pushing us to trade with the EU are now a minority,we now export more outside the EU...of course we still run a deficit with them,perhaps if we leave they will be forced to stop here exports by your logic?...No of course not,a simple look at the WTO would show you that is the most important vehicle for trade,the EU is largely irrelevant,as all trade is governed by this.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201876...ns-Europe-month.html
www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=b...pHIskF4966bISGwmD1hQ

Ban immigration - great !
Close down ALL the hospitals too? (because HOW MANY white British work in them?)

No again ITK a silly panic of yours will not change facts.By controlling our own immigration we can choose where and who we employ.The vast majority of hospital staff from abroad are from commonwealth countries,or outside the EU.Indians/Malaysia etc all speak fluent English,and are trained to British standards...and of course EU citizens will still be free to work here...if we want them...they're here for extra cash....my Bulgarian Dentist from Plovdiv reckons she earns over 1o times the salary back home...

... and all those pensioners in Spain will they all be returning here when we withdraw from Europe?

Yes ITK,remember I live here....and there money from private/government pensions,savings etc will be returning with them...a real blow for the Spanish,a gain for us.

These "one policy" parties have rarely thought beyond the main headline ... and the majority hardly ever elect them. How long has the BNP been going now? How many seats have they ever had?

The BNP is an extremist organisation,UKIP is not,in fact as I have proved the majority of the population supports their core policy.
By the same argument The Scottish Nats are doing very well....and surely they were founded on the sole basis of Scottish independence?

As an immigrant - in Spain - don't you feel it rather hypocritical and arrogant to demand to live where you want but deny that right to others?

UKIP is just as racist in its own way as the BNP.

Utterly absurd to say we should trade with other countries at a deficit (loss !) when we have a ready market.
Why should Europe trade with us if we leave the club set-up to promote trade between members?

Having got rid of one type of foreigner how long before UKIP turns its attention to the brown cousins from India?

In The Know wrote:
As an immigrant - in Spain - don't you feel it rather hypocritical and arrogant to demand to live where you want but deny that right to others?

UKIP is just as racist in its own way as the BNP.

Utterly absurd to say we should trade with other countries at a deficit (loss !) when we have a ready market.
Why should Europe trade with us if we leave the club set-up to promote trade between members?

Having got rid of one type of foreigner how long before UKIP turns its attention to the brown cousins from India?

What a fool you are ITK.
You obviously have absolutely no idea how the WTO works,as you have absolutely no idea of the published policies of the political parties you mention.
Most of the support for the UKIP comes from the conservative vote base,William Hague,IDS etc support very similar EU policies,does that make them racist?

I pay a lot of tax into Spain,and if we left the EU they would have a choice of keeping my exports and tax,or loosing my business...not the same as in the UK where every penniless immigrant who turns up gets benefits.
Check your facts before posting dribble,there are two types of immigrant,the positive ones who raise income,and the negative ones,your famous dole scrounging types.Margate where I live in Britain is full of unemployed eastern european gyspies living off my tax payer benefits...all thanks to the EU.
Oh and by the way the Spanish state,like the French etc does not automatically pay out benefits.If you haven't paid a certain amount of tax you get nothing,not even health care...you could die in the street,and not be treated! The planes back to blighty are full of 'health tourists'...mainly Brits who retired out there,who don't get free health insurance as they never paid into the Spanish system during their working lives.

Innocent Accused wrote:
Oh and by the way the Spanish state,like the French etc does not automatically pay out benefits.

.... and we should join them !

Innocent Accused wrote:
In The Know wrote:
As an immigrant - in Spain - don't you feel it rather hypocritical and arrogant to demand to live where you want but deny that right to others?

UKIP is just as racist in its own way as the BNP.

Utterly absurd to say we should trade with other countries at a deficit (loss !) when we have a ready market.
Why should Europe trade with us if we leave the club set-up to promote trade between members?

Having got rid of one type of foreigner how long before UKIP turns its attention to the brown cousins from India?

What a fool you are ITK.
You obviously have absolutely no idea how the WTO works,as you have absolutely no idea of the published policies of the political parties you mention.
Most of the support for the UKIP comes from the conservative vote base,William Hague,IDS etc support very similar EU policies,does that make them racist?

I pay a lot of tax into Spain,and if we left the EU they would have a choice of keeping my exports and tax,or loosing my business...not the same as in the UK where every penniless immigrant who turns up gets benefits.
Check your facts before posting dribble,there are two types of immigrant,the positive ones who raise income,and the negative ones,your famous dole scrounging types.Margate where I live in Britain is full of unemployed eastern european gyspies living off my tax payer benefits...all thanks to the EU.
Oh and by the way the Spanish state,like the French etc does not automatically pay out benefits.If you haven't paid a certain amount of tax you get nothing,not even health care...you could die in the street,and not be treated! The planes back to blighty are full of 'health tourists'...mainly Brits who retired out there,who don't get free health insurance as they never paid into the Spanish system during their working lives.

The forum clown can't seem to make it'sw mind up again,tedious and boring.

In The Know wrote:
As an immigrant - in Spain - don't you feel it rather hypocritical and arrogant to demand to live where you want but deny that right to others?

UKIP is just as racist in its own way as the BNP.

Utterly absurd to say we should trade with other countries at a deficit (loss !) when we have a ready market.
Why should Europe trade with us if we leave the club set-up to promote trade between members?

Having got rid of one type of foreigner how long before UKIP turns its attention to the brown cousins from India?

Thailand trades perfectly well with the European Union,and does not need to be a member to do so.