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The headlines Scream "biggest shopping day of the year" (in the pouring rain!!!!) in a desperate attempt to get people spending, and shops (ie Debenhams) are planning to stay open till 11pm tonight.
Sheer lunacy ... all they are doing is driving themselves into bankruptcy !
I predicted as soon as Sunday trading started that all that would happen is that COSTS would increase (as the cake is cut 7 ways instead of six). Just because shops open longer does not mean people have more money to spend !!!
With the already massively increased hours - Sunday shopping / late night Christmas shopping (Meadowhall has been open till 10pm every night in Dec hasn't it?) / online shopping (24 hours) and now extended normal shopping hours - the public have been spoilt beyond belief - and all that happens is retailers have to ofFer massive discounts (and make no profit !) otherwise they would not clear their stock.
They'll all claim massive success just after Christmas - and some will fold as soon as the six month rent is due in January !
In The Know wrote: The headlines Scream "biggest shopping day of the year" (in the pouring rain!!!!) in a desperate attempt to get people spending, and shops (ie Debenhams) are planning to stay open till 11pm tonight.
Sheer lunacy ... all they are doing is driving themselves into bankruptcy !
I predicted as soon as Sunday trading started that all that would happen is that COSTS would increase (as the cake is cut 7 ways instead of six). Just because shops open longer does not mean people have more money to spend !!!
With the already massively increased hours - Sunday shopping / late night Christmas shopping (Meadowhall has been open till 10pm every night in Dec hasn't it?) / online shopping (24 hours) and now extended normal shopping hours - the public have been spoilt beyond belief - and all that happens is retailers have to ofFer massive discounts (and make no profit !) otherwise they would not clear their stock.
They'll all claim massive success just after Christmas - and some will fold as soon as the six month rent is due in January !
RETAILERS HAVE SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT !
If Debenhams go bust, I just would not be able to contain myself! The shop no one enters, unless there is a never ending sale on. Remember Allied Carpets...I went there once, when there wasn't a sale on!
I think you have to blame their customers for actually going in. If they didn't go in, then they wouldn't open at daft hours...Then if other companies didn't do, just as ludicrus stuff, then neither would they. Greedy shop owners that don't think about their poor staff. Shops that shut on Christmas Day & then re-open on...Wait for it...Wait for it...BOXING DAY! Staff only get one day off & they wont get another day for working it. Oh no. They will have to wait until the following week & then there's working New Years Day too & for no extra money. Do they look after their staff? Of course not. They seem to think it's a blessing to allow them to work there. Though many wise up to it & no longer work in such a dreadful place.
For sometimes irrational 'Pest From The West' good ITK.
The Fat-Man Moore's post-fall of Wall St, 2009 film "Capitalism: A Love Story" examines corrupt right-wing corporations blighting everyday U.S. lives, and by default, the whole world.
The film moves from Middle America, to the halls of power in Washington, to the global financial epicenter in Manhattan. With both humor and outrage, Moore explores the question: What is the price that America pays for its love of capitalism? Families pay with their jobs, their homes and their savings. The film goes into the homes of ordinary people whose lives have been turned upside down; and Moore goes looking for answers in Washington, DC and elsewhere. What he finds are the all-too-common symptoms of a love affair gone wrong: lies, abuse, betrayal, plus immoral bigtime crime, and 14,000 jobs being lost every day. The inescapable source of where the whole world's finances are now, just 3-years on. With Greece gone bust, the EU and UK both dragged down, and America on the brink of another 'fiscal cliff'.
'Capitalism: A Love Story' also presents what a more hopeful future could look like, by asking, 'Who are we and why do we behave the way that we do?'
(A great question also for another of Moore's great films "Bowling For Columbine", 2002, due a sad sequel "Yanks Kill Schoolkids!" See list of U.S. School Shootings 1927 - to date' in thread, 'Original Fat-Man Movie Blasts GUNS !')
And before any rabid, dog-eat-dog 'Greed Is God' Fraud Marketeers start foaming at their muzzles. Please note that the main backer for the Fat-Man movie about Capitalism was a multi, multi-millionaire 'Free' not 'Fraud' marketeeer. Who, like caring-Capitalist Michael Moore believes in paying, not evading, or avoiding taxes.
Recalls 19Hateys good Brit, Elton John. When other multi, multi-millionaire Brit rockers had offshore tax-scams, Elton contemptously said, "How much more bloody money do they need?"
Major 'caring' capitalist backs Moore's 'Capitalism A Love Story'.
NewView wrote: For sometimes irrational 'Pest From The West' good ITK.
The Fat-Man Moore's post-fall of Wall St, 2009 film "Capitalism: A Love Story" examines corrupt right-wing corporations blighting everyday U.S. lives, and by default, the whole world.
The film moves from Middle America, to the halls of power in Washington, to the global financial epicenter in Manhattan. With both humor and outrage, Moore explores the question: What is the price that America pays for its love of capitalism? Families pay with their jobs, their homes and their savings. The film goes into the homes of ordinary people whose lives have been turned upside down; and Moore goes looking for answers in Washington, DC and elsewhere. What he finds are the all-too-common symptoms of a love affair gone wrong: lies, abuse, betrayal, plus immoral bigtime crime, and 14,000 jobs being lost every day. The inescapable source of where the whole world's finances are now, just 3-years on. With Greece gone bust, the EU and UK both dragged down, and America on the brink of another 'fiscal cliff'.
'Capitalism: A Love Story' also presents what a more hopeful future could look like, by asking, 'Who are we and why do we behave the way that we do?'
(A great question also for another of Moore's great films "Bowling For Columbine", 2002, due a sad sequel "Yanks Kill Schoolkids!" See list of U.S. School Shootings 1927 - to date' in thread, 'Original Fat-Man Movie Blasts GUNS !')
And before any rabid, dog-eat-dog 'Greed Is God' Fraud Marketeers start foaming at their muzzles. Please note that the main backer for the Fat-Man movie about Capitalism was a multi, multi-millionaire 'Free' not 'Fraud' marketeeer. Who, like caring-Capitalist Michael Moore believes in paying, not evading, or avoiding taxes.
Recalls 19Hateys good Brit, Elton John. When other multi, multi-millionaire Brit rockers had offshore tax-scams, Elton contemptously said, "How much more bloody money do they need?"
Major 'caring' capitalist backs Moore's 'Capitalism A Love Story'.
Old View wrote: NewView wrote: For sometimes irrational 'Pest From The West' good ITK.
The Fat-Man Moore's post-fall of Wall St, 2009 film "Capitalism: A Love Story" examines corrupt right-wing corporations blighting everyday U.S. lives, and by default, the whole world.
The film moves from Middle America, to the halls of power in Washington, to the global financial epicenter in Manhattan. With both humor and outrage, Moore explores the question: What is the price that America pays for its love of capitalism? Families pay with their jobs, their homes and their savings. The film goes into the homes of ordinary people whose lives have been turned upside down; and Moore goes looking for answers in Washington, DC and elsewhere. What he finds are the all-too-common symptoms of a love affair gone wrong: lies, abuse, betrayal, plus immoral bigtime crime, and 14,000 jobs being lost every day. The inescapable source of where the whole world's finances are now, just 3-years on. With Greece gone bust, the EU and UK both dragged down, and America on the brink of another 'fiscal cliff'.
'Capitalism: A Love Story' also presents what a more hopeful future could look like, by asking, 'Who are we and why do we behave the way that we do?'
(A great question also for another of Moore's great films "Bowling For Columbine", 2002, due a sad sequel "Yanks Kill Schoolkids!" See list of U.S. School Shootings 1927 - to date' in thread, 'Original Fat-Man Movie Blasts GUNS !')
And before any rabid, dog-eat-dog 'Greed Is God' Fraud Marketeers start foaming at their muzzles. Please note that the main backer for the Fat-Man movie about Capitalism was a multi, multi-millionaire 'Free' not 'Fraud' marketeeer. Who, like caring-Capitalist Michael Moore believes in paying, not evading, or avoiding taxes.
Recalls 19Hateys good Brit, Elton John. When other multi, multi-millionaire Brit rockers had offshore tax-scams, Elton contemptously said, "How much more bloody money do they need?"
Major 'caring' capitalist backs Moore's 'Capitalism A Love Story'.
Like i've said before old bh, doesn't have any debts, as he lives with in his budget & doesn't buy things he can't afford. Now, if everyone did this, they'd be no personal debts, except that of Governments & Retail Shops...The shops that rent their premises aka Debenhams & all the other stores. Now, if I were opening a shop, I'd make sure I had enough to buy the premises & was able to afford the Tax, before I opened it & started trading.
BBC News just reporting on the "biggest shopping day" -
Interviewed spokeman from Liverpool One shopping centre who claimed "biggest sales day ever" ! (unfortunately you could see over her shoulder and down tha mall - I've seen busier funeral homes !!!)
... then switch the shopping centre in Bristol - lots of folks (same as ordinary Saturday?) milling around (but notice that no one has a bag? no bag = no purchase LOL !)
... then reporter infront of crowds milling down a street - yet again not a bag in sight !
We recall late '50s - mid '60s b/w Beeb-TV early evening current affairs prog 'Tonight'. With Cliff Michelmore, and other national treasures like canny Scot, Fyfe Robertson.
Circa 1964 Fyfe reported from various UK town centres with individual friendly shops beaten out by large chain-stores creating identical high streets, almost indistinguishable one from another.
High streets now chariddy shop and boarded-up deserts, almost lost to out-of-town Americanized malls, with unending global corporations merged-zones and omnipresent world logos. Impersonal vast cathedrals to consumerism, which peerless Pilger nailed last year while haplessly seeking some culture among the worshippers of Mammon.
" Looking for a bookshop that was no longer there, I walked instead into a labyrinth designed as a trap. Leaving became an allusion, rather like Alice once she had stepped through the Looking Glass. Walls of glass curved into concentric circles as one "store" merged into another: Armani Exchange with Dinki Di Pies. Exits led to gauntlets of more "offers" and "exciting options". Seeking a guide, I bought a lousy pair of sunglasses: anything to get out. It was a vision of hell. It was a Westfield mega mall. "
In The Know wrote: Sheer lunacy ... all they are doing is driving themselves into bankruptcy !
RETAILERS HAVE SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT !
Seems I was right -
The battle for the consumer has moved online with retailers bringing forward the start of sales after reports of lacklustre spending on the High Street.
And the problems facing retailers was underlined by business recovery group Begbies Traynor. It estimated that tough Christmas trading conditions had left nearly 140 firms in a "critical" condition.
Ben 9 wrote: Next's profits were up almost 10% in 2012.
For every winner, there will be a loser.....
Why do you totally ignore the winners?
Because this thread is about CHRISTMAS SHOPPING HYPE - not the overall performance throughout the year. Why dont you actually READ a post before replying????
Besides, the "winners" are flukes (otherwise there wouldn't be 10% of shops standing empty, would there?)
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