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#92634
In The Know

another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
mobility scooters !!!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-21003827

I'm sure the majority of users dont actually need one - but will do when they haven't used their legs for six months !
 
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andrew

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
People whi use them want to hit pedestrians I hate them if you don't move or stand in the right place you get abuse.
 
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#92654
Ben 9

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:

I'm sure the majority of users dont actually need one


Why are you sure?
 
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#92657
hedda

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
ITK has been booked to play Ebenezer Scrooge next Xmas.

no acting required.
 
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#92685
Ben 9

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
andrew wrote:
People whi use them want to hit pedestrians I hate them if you don't move or stand in the right place you get abuse.

People would not use mobility scooters unless they had to. Walking around is one of life's great pleasures - but, if you can't - the scooters fulfil the need to get out in the fresh air and community.

In addition, they provide independence whereas wheelchairs usually do not.

Not long ago, disabled/imobile people would be unable to leave their houses - and had to rely on friends and neighbours to do their shopping etc. Now, many shops and malls cater for scooters and - for example, Wetherspoons (the UK's largest pub chain) and others - allow users in, on their scooters, to eat and drink.

Also, most football/sports clubs have designated areas and facilities for scooter users - many of whom are in their teens.

To say, users want to hit pedestrians and give abuse is silly; they just want to go about their daily chores and leisure activities like the able-bodied.
 
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#92687
In The Know

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
ITK has been booked to play Ebenezer Scrooge next Xmas.

Hedda-tas, let me ask you something.

WHY are you so keen to continually repress these people?
Why wont you let them flourish, be fitter, healthier, live better lives?

Is it loony Labour policy? To keep them all on the lowest possible level? So they all live in identical Council boxes, on identical Council estates, and work in identical Government factories, all wearing identical clothes?

What is wrong with encouraging people to be fitter and healthier? ... after all, you have NEVER seen a thin person on a mobility scooter have you LOL !
 
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#92693
True

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
Ben 9 wrote:
In The Know wrote:

I'm sure the majority of users dont actually need one


Why are you sure?


Sure he will invent some stats if pushed.
 
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#92699
hedda

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
I must tell my 87 yr old Aunt to bloody well get out of her scooter and skip down the street.

Ignore the athritis and gangrenous leg !
 
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#92702
In The Know

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
True wrote:
Sure he will invent some stats if pushed.

Statistically ... whats the chance of getting any common sense out of someone who has to change his non-de-plume every time he posts ?


MMmmmm?
 
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#92703
Angel

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
Good points ITK. Seen a few of them on the main road! Did you get this ad down sarf? Won a few awards....


 
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Ben 9

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
Ben 9 wrote:
andrew wrote:
People whi use them want to hit pedestrians I hate them if you don't move or stand in the right place you get abuse.

People would not use mobility scooters unless they had to. Walking around is one of life's great pleasures - but, if you can't - the scooters fulfil the need to get out in the fresh air and community.

In addition, they provide independence whereas wheelchairs usually do not.

Not long ago, disabled/imobile people would be unable to leave their houses - and had to rely on friends and neighbours to do their shopping etc. Now, many shops and malls cater for scooters and - for example, Wetherspoons (the UK's largest pub chain) and others - allow users in, on their scooters, to eat and drink.

Also, most football/sports clubs have designated areas and facilities for scooter users - many of whom are in their teens.

To say, users want to hit pedestrians and give abuse is silly; they just want to go about their daily chores and leisure activities like the able-bodied.




One question ITK. If you or any of your family become unable to walk - would you/they use a mobility scooter, or continue to laugh at them (LOL) - and still think thin/lazy/estate people should only use them?
 
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In The Know

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
Angel wrote:
[quote]Good points ITK. Seen a few of them on the main road! Did you get this ad down sarf? Won a few awards....


Not seen that before, angel, thanks.

In some towns you can actually hire (sometimes free) a mob scooter WHEN you get to town !

I've also seen people ride in them up to shops then get out and walk (perfectly normally) into and around the shop. Its just complete idleness mainly (which is why all these people are FAT) - these are the sort of people who will have disabled stickers on their cars - also to save them actually walking a few feet !!!

Like I said ... if you stop using your legs you will soon find that they dont work at all (but that probably means more benefits).
 
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Ben 9

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
[quote]Angel wrote:
I've also seen people ride in them up to shops then get out and walk (perfectly normally) into and around the shop

But, that is the POINT of them!

A high percentage of users can walk - for short distances, but need help to get where they want.

Outside shops, restaurants and pubs, you will often see parked up scooters. With the users inside enjoying themselves in the knowledge that they can get home easily.

I note you ignored my quesion about your (and your family's) potential usage....



 
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In The Know

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
I must tell my 87 yr old Aunt to bloody well get out of her scooter and skip down the street.

Ignore the athritis and gangrenous leg !


All below from The Guardian (your favourite socialist rag) Hedda-tas ! -

But as they have become more popular, mobility scooters have become more controversial. Although the main growth in the market is the consequence of an ageing population, there is evidence that people with no disabilities are beginning to buy the scooters on the secondhand market (where they can cost as little as £100) because, with no tax, licence or insurance requirements, they provide a cheap alternative to cars for getting around town, particularly at a time of rising petrol prices.

There has been a marked change in the way people use them. A decade ago these were products used only by very frail people; now manufacturers are designing new models with bench seats capable of carrying people up to 40st. "It's a cultural issue. People are larger and, dare I say it, lazier," an industry spokesman says (before deciding that he doesn't dare say it, and asking for his name not to be put to the quote). "People are using them as a mode of transport rather than public transport or a car."

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/02/t...th-mobility-scooters
 
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#92745
hedda

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
Ben 9 wrote:
[quote]In The Know wrote:
Angel wrote:
I've also seen people ride in them up to shops then get out and walk (perfectly normally) into and around the shop

But, that is the POINT of them!

A high percentage of users can walk - for short distances, but need help to get where they want.

Outside shops, restaurants and pubs, you will often see parked up scooters. With the users inside enjoying themselves in the knowledge that they can get home easily.

I note you ignored my quesion about your (and your family's) potential usage....





indeed...I had one of those disabled parking stickers for 12 months, 8 yrs ago after 2 knee replacements as I could only walk limited distances.

It didn't stop some nutcase in a parking station abusing me of using my granny's sticker...if only I'd known at the time it was ITK. I could have slapped him down in person.
 
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Ben 9

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
hedda wrote:

indeed...I had one of those disabled parking stickers for 12 months, 8 yrs ago after 2 knee replacements as I could only walk limited distances.

It didn't stop some nutcase in a parking station abusing me of using my granny's sticker...if only I'd known at the time it was ITK. I could have slapped him down in person.


Yes ITK thinks that all mobility scooters users and those with parking stickers are bogus. If he has any friends, he must know a few who are genuinely using them - or will he have to wait until his knee or hip goes to appreciate how important these entitlements are to the infirm. Inevitably, there will be some abuse; but the availability of these services is much more important.
 
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#92781
In The Know

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
It didn't stop some nutcase in a parking station abusing me of using my granny's sticker....

She has received emails from 200 people hit by mobility scooters since she started her campaign in October.

MPs have previously considered introducing a fit-to-drive test.

A coroner criticised the "serious lack" of regulations after a 90-year-old woman was knocked down on an Isle of Wight pavement and killed in 2009.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-21003827

So there we have it, Hedda .... the dolers are using them instead of cars, no need for a license or tax, park them anywhere and get FATTER all at the same time !

Fortunately all this idleness WILL shorten their lives.
 
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Ben 9

Re:another thing ITK hates ! 12 Years, 6 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
no need for a license or tax

Same for knives - which kill and injure 1000's more in the UK.

Do you think they should be banned, or mobility scooters which, mainly - are used by invalids?


 
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