JK2006 wrote:
I suspect it hasn't even been allowed to cross Nick Pollard's mind that a "victim" might have exaggerated, let alone invented, anything.investigation this simplistic black and white society, nobody claiming sexual abuse ever lies or exaggerates.
Why? Because, in brain dead Britain, that equates with showing no sympathy for the poor, damaged victims. Our brain cells cannot compute anything else.
"I suspect it hasn't even been allowed to cross Nick Pollard's mind that a "victim" might have exaggerated, let alone invented, anything"
That's too good that is, when two of those 'victims' were Fiona and Karin Ward.
It is obvious to anyone who reads the CPS report about the 2007-2009 police investigation into Jimmy Savile, that 'Ms G' is Fiona and she changed her story at least twice and what she said on ITV Exposure bares absolutely no resemblence to what she told the police in 2008 (and this was even noticed by Alison Levitt).
And Karin Ward only started including accusations of abuse from Jimmy Savile et al in her misery 'memoir' after June 2010, as she said in a reply to a review of her story on 'FanStory' back then (before the chapters concerning her time at Duncroft had been written):- "subsequent chapters are going to be more difficult because I was drugged and the MEMORIES ARE HORRIBLY VAGUE. ~Fortunately, I have reconnected with Frances and others who were at Duncroft with me. BETWEEN US, WE ARE PIECING TOGETHER OUR MEMORIES OF EVENTS. It is much worse THAN I RECALL!" (sure you recovered 'memories' about sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile had nothing to do with the gossip about the recent police investigation into him you would have seen when you were on Friends Reunited looking to "reconnect" with these friends of yours...? Hmm...)
And of course, the synopsis of her story in 2009, although very detailed and mentioning abuse in other institutions and points in her life and mentioning going to Duncroft, MADE NO MENTION of abuse at Duncroft and NO MENTION AT ALL of Jimmy Savile, Freddie Starr etc, so though I accept she must have met Jimmy Savile at least been in the same room as Freddie Starr, they were clearly that unimportant to her and that unmemorable that they weren't even worth a mention back then.
I wonder what else would be uncovered if someone was to dig deeper?
I don't know about councillors or psychotherapists, but a psychiatrist at least would still have in her medical notes what she told them in her sessions with them before, as she claims, they advised her to start writing that story. If her therapist or psychotherapist did take notes, would there be any mention of the stories she told in her Newsnight interview about Jimmy Savile, Freddie Starr and Gary Glitter in there? Of course there wouldn't/isn't. Perhaps someone should check those e.g the police dealing with Freddie Starr and Gary Glitter? I hope they do...
Also, in the epilogue of her first book 'Keri' she wrote:- "The reader should note that most of the names have been changed. This has not actually been done to nessiserily protect the innocent - the victims mainly have their own names after all. (is that because she's asked their permission/checked it over with them? Would these be the same 'victims' who helped her piece "together her memories of events", per chance...?) It has been done to prevent a law-suit. I anticipate that, should Mother (who is still alive at the time of writing) or my brother, for that matter, discover that I have written this book, they will not hesitate. They will accuse me of lying. No doubt they will further claim I am trying to draw attention to myself."
Now if, as she claims, her mother abused her horribly from the age of two years old and she had been saying all this back then to teachers etc, then there may still be people alive that could be cited as witnesses surely...? Would you not think a 'law-suit' would be the least of her worries?
If her mother is still alive now, has Mark Williams-Thomas suggested to her that she should go and report her to the police as he suggested she do with Freddie Starr and Gary Glitter? You'd have thought he would, if he believed them to be true, as the accusations against her were far worse. You'd also have thought if she had been arrested he'd have 'tweeted' something about it too, wouldn't you...? (incase anyone else has similar complaints about her). Has anyone seen a tweet or anything in the news that could possibly be about the arrest of this woman?
Put it this way, if her mother is still alive (and she was when Karin wrote 'Keri) and Karin hasn't been to the police about her, despite going to the police about other, less serious matters, and all she is worried about concerning her mother is a "law-suit", then thats kind of strange isn't it...?
And as for the woman who claimed Jimmy Savile put his tongue in her mouth outside Stoke Mandeville hospital ('Ms E' in the CPS report of the Surrey/Sussex police investigation), is her mother still alive? If so, can she be contacted to verify her daughter's alleged claims that she answered the phone to Jimmy Savile in 1973 when he phoned the house in order to 'groom' her daughter?
Was that done before her story was used in the ITV Exposure programme? I very much doubt it, if her mum was to have contradicted her that would have sort of ruined the story a bit wouldn't it? And Mark Williams-Thomas said on the programme "she's asked us to protect her identity because her family know nothing about what followed", well, all her family but her sister 'Ms D's, who went to Duncroft.
Why would a silly little story like Jimmy Savile kissing you outside Stoke Mandeville hospital be so hard to tell your family at the she of 53?
Why, according to her, did she not tell anybody about it EVER bar her sister 'Ms D' who went to Duncroft and was involved in the investigation and brought her sister to the police's attention?
Most girls would have laughed (or at least expressed disgust) about it to their friends when they got on the bus home and would maybe have brought it up at least once as a joke one of the times Jimmy Savile appeared on the tv every week for the next 21 years, i'd of thought...?
Only ever told my sister... yeah right you are.
The actress speaking on her behalf said "I was just so shocked" in the ITV Exposure programme, yet when she spoke to the police (never even WANTED to give a formal statement) she said "it just seemed so insignificant at the time" and "I feel it would be a waste of police time", which sounds a hell of a lot more realistic than what was said in the hugely over dramatized ITV Exposure programme, but still, can anyone verify her claims? Any of the other girls who were on or getting on the bus that day? Her mum who, an actress said on her daughter's behalf on ITV Exposure, had apparently answered the phone to Jimmy Savile when he allegedly rang the house for her daughter in 1973? And if she never said that to the police in 2008, I don't know whether she did or not, but if she didn't, why did she change her story...?
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