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So... was this anti-gay god botherer a closet queen or are the four "priests and ex priests" liars?
Well; priests never lie, do they?
But if they don't, what about all the priests accused of sex abuse who deny it?
And if we believe that sex accusers never lie (like Max Clifford and Esther Rantzen say), how does that tally?
Is Cardinal O'Brien lying? Are priests and ex priests lying? Are victims lying?
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive...
Off to watch Vicky Pryce defend her lies whilst eating a horse meat burger promised as beef... could this be the year when humans follow lemmings over the cliff of life?
I mean we live in an age when people are vilified and condemned (Savile) without a shred of evidence being tested in Court / without the credibility of any witness being challenged / without any charges EVER being laid?
Against such a backdrop - does it really matter whether he is innocent or not?
I dont for a second believe that Vicky Price is innocent - but a Jury hasnt found her guilty have they ???
the Cardinal's sins ... or the Cardinal's sinners ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago
hedda wrote: There wouldn't be a person on the planet who has led a blameless life.
Yet again the circumstances surround the allegations are interesting -
NONE of these "complaints" were made at the time. WHY NOT ?
The Cardinal is already "working his notice" and the complainants have gone public in a malicious attempt to block the Cardinal from taking part in the Conclave. So ... the Vatican has "brought forward" his retirement to make it immediate.
There is clear malice on the part of the complaints ... would you (as a Juror) trust a witness who could not explain why they had not complained IMMEDIATELY and had shown malice at the time of the complaint ? If this "case" appeared in a Court it would be thrown out immediately.
Our system has gone potty - to please the do-gooders.
I've seen no specifics in the media; just general 4 priests (one an ex); behaviour in the 80's, that's it.
It's so odd: I predicted this 13 years ago when it dawned on me what could happen, be it deliberately set up (as in my case - admitted by those involved) or simply inspired by media hysteria.
I'm not saying all allegations are false - far from it; I simply think times have changed, incidents now take on different aspects with the morality alterations, that time plays tricks on memory, that age brings extraordinary adaptations to circumstances and that there are some people who deliberately change their stories, be it for money, sympathy, justification for failure, revenge, jealousy...
Very few allegations are exactly as painted. It's in media, police and CPS interest to colour up descriptions... even judges prefer dramatic extreme stories to dull, confused, muddled, trivial ones...
Why admit to sipping a cup of tea when you can describe gorging yourself on a banquet?
Ben 9 wrote: But much more important is the big change to the coming Pope selection process; the winner will now have to give a guarantee on his past life. Only those with nothing to hide....will come forward..
As a result, it is thought that the 'white smoke' will be a long time coming! The successful OAP, who will run a religion with 1.6B followers, will be analysed minutely - from the day he was born, including his family/friends and all relationships; in addition to everything he ever said and did.
The catholic church is now in turmoil and another OAP is not the answer; the last one couldn't last the pace and the one before that was seriously ill coming to the end. Undoubtedly, radical changes are needed - but unlikely to occur in an organisation still living in the middle ages, or before.
No other business/organisation/religion puts this much pressure on one person who - because of a lack of foresight - has to be past retiring age. The system has no logic and doesn't give any continuity, as in less than 10 years time, there'll be another conclave - which will select yet another OAP.
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