A terrific lady. More later.

Thatcher state funeral to be privatised

Responsible department: Cabinet Office

In keeping with the great lady's legacy, Margaret Thatcher's state funeral should be funded and managed by the private sector to offer the best value and choice for end users and other stakeholders.

The undersigned believe that the legacy of the former PM deserves nothing less and that offering this unique opportunity is an ideal way to cut government expense and further prove the merits of liberalised economics Baroness Thatcher spearheaded.

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/18914

rust in peace

Love it.

Funny how death brings out the best in people.

JK2006 wrote:
Funny how death brings out the best in people.
that's a statement that could be taken many ways.

personally I think she was an utter disaster and Maggie's policies (which weren't hers anyway...just fed to her) are responsible for the millions of ill-educated "dolers" and savages ...who will become a bigger group and a bigger problem.

And even worse...those trying to control such problems (like Blair/ Cameron) are frighteningly clueless.

Maggie was the first British politician who won on image..the success of style over substance.

All the working class fools who I knew who supported her could never actually tell you what she was doing...apart from bombing the Argies.

The upper and business classes of course knew exactly what she was doing.

For me the Thatcher Era was the Triumph of The Airheads.

As Prime Minister - she was strong, powerful and a leader; of course those affected by her adapting the country to the new world will always hate her. God forbid that the Internet arrives and changes our music world! Likewise, God forbid that coal mining would last forever and that changing them would affect communities. Sorry - they needed change. Unions needed change. Personally I felt she should have been kinder socially but economically I thought she moved the country forward.

As a human being I was lucky enough to meet her - she was a nice, kind, charismatic person. Very strong. Very charming.

JK2006 wrote:
As Prime Minister - she was strong, powerful and a leader; of course those affected by her adapting the country to the new world will always hate her. God forbid that the Internet arrives and changes our music world! Likewise, God forbid that coal mining would last forever and that changing them would affect communities. Sorry - they needed change. Unions needed change. Personally I felt she should have been kinder socially but economically I thought she moved the country forward.

As a human being I was lucky enough to meet her - she was a nice, kind, charismatic person. Very strong. Very charming.

have to disagree. Charismatic yes but what bloody use is that ?

she destroyed whole communities..you don't just destroy something like the mines and unions and leave nothing in their place..

selling off council housing was sheer madness ..while the rest of Europe and the USA was increasing social housing she did the opposite..and thus we have a housing crisis today.

For me she was a positive influence as she convinced me to base myself somewhere else and it was the best thing I ever did.

But millions of others..I can understand why they hate her.

her legacy..a Britain that has adopted all the worst excesses of the USA and the disasters of the "free market' and for all the claptrap about how she "saved" Britain, Owen Jones is spot on in The Independent...under Thatcherism (almost a cult..but as opposed to the woman herself) there have been 3 major financial calamities and dills like Cameron carrying on as though she save Western Civilisation yet he is making all the same mistakes.

I'd go further JK..Thatcherism was probably responsible for your predicament..she did deals with the Devil Rupert Murdoch and allowed him to dumb down Britain which once was a fair and just society and now is obsessed with rampant pedo chasing !!!!

JK2006 wrote:
As Prime Minister - she was strong, powerful and a leader; of course those affected by her adapting the country to the new world will always hate her. God forbid that the Internet arrives and changes our music world! Likewise, God forbid that coal mining would last forever and that changing them would affect communities. Sorry - they needed change. Unions needed change. Personally I felt she should have been kinder socially but economically I thought she moved the country forward.

As a human being I was lucky enough to meet her - she was a nice, kind, charismatic person. Very strong. Very charming.

Agree with that. A rare diamond in what is a political turd. There has not been a truely influencial (and not false) politician since then. In fact politicians in general had someting about them then (Foot, Heseltine et al). Political party PRs now seem to be afraid of having anyone who has colourful views and statements and want candidates to be all things to all men (and women). You end up getting the Ford Sierra of the political world who no-one really wants to vote for. Clegg, Cameron, Millbland. Who the hell is waiting in the wings?

Funnily enough Hedda - just as I've decided in old age that democracy doesn't work, I regard Prime Ministers as unimportant people; I don't think they affect matters one way or the other much. I basically think things happen. However you legislate, they will have unintended consequences. Give money to millions and the kickback can come years later. Get rid of dictators and you solve some problems and create others. Mussolini was the best Italian leader economically ever yet the consequences of his "reign" were awful. Hitler likewise (I studied him at University) some appalling bigoted acts but some great economic ones.

Times change. No politician started the Internet; the biggest influence on life style change in 100 years. Or cars. Or planes. Or mobile phones.

Life changes due - almost inevitably - outside forces. Yes - wars appear radically changing and they are usually politically created but the results tend to be instant and temporary - life goes on (for the living) when peace breaks out; economic disasters are sorted out; but the big changes are not politically provoked.

Maggie was a politician who believed what she was doing was right (it often wasn't). She truly did it for the country, not for herself or her image (that's why so many hate her as opposed to the cunning media manipulators). As a person, she was nice (I met her; most critics didn't). I never voted for her and thought a lot she did was bad but a lot was good too.

JK2006 wrote:
Funnily enough Hedda - just as I've decided in old age that democracy doesn't work,


Congratulations, this must be about the 1000th time you've come out with this brain-bruisingly unoriginal observation, thus qualifying you for a year's supply of Sugar Puffs!

and I met her once in Australia for a brief second and was surprised that a woman I basically disliked was so attractive, so petite, so soft looking and as you say, very charismatic.

But she really was just a front man/woman for the free marketeers..in fact she was perfect in that she was so determined to strive ahead...they could stay in the dark behind her and ramp through all the nasty policies.

do I get my sugar puffs now ?

The Twitfinder General wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Funnily enough Hedda - just as I've decided in old age that democracy doesn't work,


Congratulations, this must be about the 1000th time you've come out with this brain-bruisingly unoriginal observation, thus qualifying you for a year's supply of Sugar Puffs!

In general you're a Twit