Watching and reading the reports about people celebrating Margaret Thatcher's death....

the vast majority seem to be young..early 20s. They wouldn't have been alive when Thatcher was PM.

This is fairly unique. I cannot recall anything similar.

### note to ITK...of all those eulogizing or criticizing Maggie's time...Tony Blair has praised her policies and announced he continued her "reforms"...

so in reality...when you blame Tony Blair & New Labour (quite rightly) for Britain's woes, you are really blaming Tory policies !.

Prove me wrong !

hedda wrote:
### note to ITK...of all those eulogizing or criticizing Maggie's time...Tony Blair has praised her policies and announced he continued her "reforms"...

...when you blame Tony Blair & New Labour (quite rightly)

Cant speak now, Hedda-tas ...
I'm in deep mourning.

The Lady who saved us from the Argies (the last PM to actually "win" a war - you dont think B-Liar "won" in Afghan or Iraq, do you???!!!!).

She also saved us from the loony Unions. (29.4 million work days lost in 1979 - remember the rubbish piled high in the streets and bodies piled up in mortuaries?) down to just about 1 million days lost last year.

If the Unions had won - we'd all be living in caves now (and the Greeks would be asking if they could LEND us some money).

This may be due to the fact that the young (U25s) just do what they are told and follow each other like lemmings. Someone's told them this Market Thatcher woman was like Hitler and Jimmy Savile an' that, and that if they smash up charity shops cos she's dead it'll be really, like, cool and David Cameron will stop being an arsehole Tory from Eating then, yeah.

Once the idiots were just the fools gawping in through the windows - now they've entered the building. They use the word 'cool', it is their favourite. You can hear them everywhere. The idiots doesn't think about what it is saying - thinking is rubbish, and rubbish isn't cool. Stuff an' shit is cool.

I prefer to think that they understand how the idealogy of Thatcherism is so damaging they cannot control their fury.

ITK like many who long for a past Imperial era ignores realities about the Argentinian fiasco : the Argentinians wanted a peaceful settlement but were ignored by Thatcher and if they hadn't loaded their weapons incorrectly, thousands of Britons would have died which would have destroyed Thatcher.

Such are the perils of waging war as Blair is discovering.

### ITK also re-writes history : the only reason there is now a huge wealthier middle class is because unions fought bitter battles to increase their wages.

As for coal, Britain now imports coal as does China on a massive scale..which would have made China an unbelievably wealthy customer...so that was really clever and far thinking wasn't it ?

hedda wrote:
ITK As for coal, Britain now imports coal as does China on a massive scale..which would have made China an unbelievably wealthy customer...so that was really clever and far thinking wasn't it ?

Yes it was ...

How much do you think a bag of coal would cost now if loony Arthur had won?

... back to the caves LOL !!!!!

In The Know wrote:
hedda wrote:
ITK As for coal, Britain now imports coal as does China on a massive scale..which would have made China an unbelievably wealthy customer...so that was really clever and far thinking wasn't it ?

Yes it was ...

How much do you think a bag of coal would cost now if loony Arthur had won?

... back to the caves LOL !!!!!

Arthur was beaten back in '84.Mr Link became Maggie's pet poodle of a unionist.
So why did Messrs Major & Heseltine close most of the mining industry? Could it be because of the single most avoidable economic disaster in British economic history?
Seems both you and Veritas only see one side of the argument,whereas the truth lies often in between.

Right or wrong, good or bad, "Thatcher" became a lightning rod for utterly opposing views - the fact that she was voted greatest leader of the century in the same week others are holding celebrations of her death is ample evidence of this.

However, I'd posit that the fact that so many of these not-even-alive-at-the-time youngsters have been caught up in this, is because the media has so relentlessly spun her time in power negatively, that it's generally now taken as fact, rather than a viewpoint.

From very early on in her time in power, the left took to blaming her for every bad thing that'd happened in the UK since Suez ("I blame Thatcher" even became a stock catchphrase), and amazingly, is still doing it, despite doing nothing during their last 13 years in power to reverse the policies she set in motion... and at least she fully represented her party, unlike Blair, who sold his down the river in his pursuit of power... I'm wondering how his death will be received when it comes...?

the truth lies often in between unlike True.

no Metal Mickey I believe the intelligent "left" correctly blames Thatcherism- a definite economic and social engineering creed -for it's many failures.

No-one really knows what the people in the street believe as no-one has actually asked them...just run sensational headlines.
For all we know they could be UKIP supporters, escapees from a lunatic asylum or ITK's more sane relatives.

But you are correct about Blair and he continued Thatcherism on steroids, after repeatedly denouncing privatisation before John Smith's unfortunate demise.