Using the same excuse now infecting the world and one which I witnessed many times in prison. "I too was raped as a child". All this was predicted by me 13 years ago. "Victim empathy". Bollocks.

The child's grandmother has a very odd view of it all....

"Tia was not the sort of girl you could groom. She was a mouthy 12-year-old - you couldn’t force her to do anything"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324037...re-I-love-heart.html

She wasn't 'groomed' - she was fucked and then murdered by a psychotic socially inadequate thug on a sink estate surrounded by "her own"

But of course we can't now think in terms of 'underclass' and the associated pitfalls, we are all part of this "Big Society"

Mark Williams-Thomas was on sky news boasting that Stuart Hazell had contacted him asking for the interview.
I dont see what there is to boast about. His reputation as a policeman/criminal psychologist (or whatever he is this week) cant be up to much if a murderer actually invites him in, and his judgement is either a bit rubbish and he thought he was innocent or he knew he was guilty but forgot to mention it to the other police, because they didn't find the body for a while after the interview.

Chris Retro wrote:
She wasn't 'groomed' - she was fucked and then murdered by a psychotic socially inadequate thug on a sink estate surrounded by "her own"

All living on benefits and "child support" ! (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more).

In The Know wrote:
All living on benefits and "child support" (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more)


The same repetitive tripe from ITK about every subject.....

Scroungers are the cause of everything.

World Wars, dandruff, thrush, flat tyres, Wigan's relegation, heavy metal and - why there are so many Derbyshire carrot crunchers/pensioners.....

In The Know wrote:
Chris Retro wrote:
She wasn't 'groomed' - she was fucked and then murdered by a psychotic socially inadequate thug on a sink estate surrounded by "her own"

All living on benefits and "child support" ! (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more).

Indeed and will now continue to live on benefits and child support albeit in prison..

twice now MWT has involved himself in cases and shown to be a plonker...the McCanns etc.

Wonder what cops think of him ?

if he thinks he is forging a career via news Ltd he wil be sadly mistaken. They eat up everyone in the end.

Ben 9 wrote:
In The Know wrote:
All living on benefits and "child support" (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more)


The same repetitive tripe from ITK about every subject.....

Scroungers are the cause of everything.

World Wars, dandruff, thrush, flat tyres, Wigan's relegation, heavy metal and - why there are so many Derbyshire carrot crunchers/pensioners.....





Very true Ben,but you have to admit it's nice to see him back

In The Know wrote:
Chris Retro wrote:
She wasn't 'groomed' - she was fucked and then murdered by a psychotic socially inadequate thug on a sink estate surrounded by "her own"

All living on benefits and "child support" ! (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more).

A certain couple who left their kids on their own in Portugal wernt on benefits, itk.....

True wrote:
Ben 9 wrote:
In The Know wrote:
All living on benefits and "child support" (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more)


The same repetitive tripe from ITK about every subject.....

Scroungers are the cause of everything.

World Wars, dandruff, thrush, flat tyres, Wigan's relegation, heavy metal and - why there are so many Derbyshire carrot crunchers/pensioners.....





Very true Ben,but you have to admit it's nice to see him back

there is a very credible theory that the great rock'n'roll / pop music industry that sprang forth in the UK in the 50s/60s/70s was because kids could just survive on the dole and develop their talent.

Others may unkindly call him a swivel eyed loon but he always be a distant cousin to me.

steveimp wrote:
In The Know wrote:
Chris Retro wrote:
She wasn't 'groomed' - she was fucked and then murdered by a psychotic socially inadequate thug on a sink estate surrounded by "her own"

All living on benefits and "child support" ! (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more).

A certain couple who left their kids on their own in Portugal wernt on benefits, itk.....

They created their own benefit system.
They began to set up a multi-million pound SCROUNGING campaign within one hour of the child's "disappearance and have used the bulk of the money to sue everyone who dares object to their continuous lies, refusal to co-operate with the police, and their extremely suspicious behaviour.

Yet other families are slated for giving paid interviews....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326383...ICO=most_read_module

In The Know wrote:
Chris Retro wrote:
She wasn't 'groomed' - she was fucked and then murdered by a psychotic socially inadequate thug on a sink estate surrounded by "her own"

All living on benefits and "child support" ! (as we have seen so many times in the past and will, no doubt see many times more).

I agree that there is something horribly wrong when a drug dealing machete waving ex boyfriend of your daughter is seen as a good choice of partner, but the grandmother (at least) was working.

She claims that she thought the smell of rotting corpse was cat dirt.
It smells nothing like it, but if she thought that then why the heck didn't she clean it up?

steveimp wrote:
A certain couple who left their kids on their own in Portugal wernt on benefits, itk.....

My thoughts exactly, neither were this couple www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317772...d-child-neglect.html and, funnily enough, although if their jobs weren't well paid they may have been getting a helping hand with housing benefit etc, Stuart Hazel and the grandmother, Christine Bicknell, weren't unemployed either, she worked in a care home and had been a barmaid, was the daughter of a warehouse worker and had originally married a long distance lorry driver, and he worked as a window cleaner at the time of the murder.

But because Tia Sharpe's mother's (who may have been unemployed herself I suppose at some point if she'd been a single mum, but I haven't read that) partner David Niles has apparently been unemployed and on the dole for the last four years, it's obviously a result of the welfare state...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326383...--hope-did-have.html

hedda wrote:
[b]there is a very credible theory that the great rock'n'roll / pop music industry that sprang forth in the UK in the 50s/60s/70s was because kids could just survive on the dole and develop their talent.

Others may unkindly call him a swivel eyed loon but he always be a distant cousin to me.

Perhaps that's true in some cases, and it could be looked at as an investment - if they became successful - think of the money they'd be paying in tax...