Probably the two greatest record producers of all time, Joe was furious that Phil had stolen his ideas of using echo. He had a point but where Phil scored was in finding or writing generally far better songs. Whilst Joe's tracks were often original genius work with rather inferior melodies (with several exceptions) Phil often had truly great songs. This comment was inspired by hearing The Rosettes doing Baby I Love You.

JK2006 wrote:
Probably the two greatest record producers of all time, Joe was furious that Phil had stolen his ideas of using echo. He had a point but where Phil scored was in finding or writing generally far better songs. Whilst Joe's tracks were often original genius work with rather inferior melodies (with several exceptions) Phil often had truly great songs. This comment was inspired by hearing The Rosettes doing Baby I Love You.

Has to be Meek for me JK, until his mental health took it's toll near the end. Cryan Shames were his final attempt to make it big again but died before they actually released a LP. Heinz to me was a novelty but had some good songs but great things such as You Were There, Live It UP, Questions I Can't Answer. Joe Meek used a flat as a studio and improvised with household items to get a beat or rhythm going.