split between total disaster and those who feel it was the best of a bad bunch.

Personally, I think it was a disastrous choice. I don't think any of the entries was a hit but I feel this falls slap in the centre of the "people who think Eurovision is about this" kind of area - formerly occupied by Jemini.

Same mugging and camp gestures and double entendres (so not foreign)... a kind of far less clever Daz.

As for the incredible slip up, SO cruel to the poor pretty (and talented) French girl... inexcusable sloppiness.

For me, this is the TV people taking over again as they were before my era. They think they can spot a winner but they can't. You need someone in charge with a foot in both worlds - music and TV.

Incidentally, why didn't the BBC give the phone numbers to vote on screen during the Lordi performance? Surely nobody had the memory to vote for either of the two finalists?

They didn't put the phone numbers up at the very end of the main show either - I had to go and root around on the internet for the numbers, and they were very tricky to find.

And poor Cyndi probably wants never to have anything to do with this naff and incompetent country ever again.

I've deliberately NOT called Stevie Boy and won't until tomorrow when he's slightly healed.

I've talked to a few people this morning and several have said they didn't vote for Cyndi because her song was too much of a "nick". They thought she was the best singer but the song let her down.

I turned ff the TV in disgust. That guy who does the phone quiz/rip off late night on Channel 5 makes me want to vomit. Scooch were an awful proposition first time round, like a faded, distressed photocopy of Steps (who were hardly the Beatles themselves!). Definite nul points for me.

* Most of my 20 something year old mates loved Scooch
* Bizarrely my mum wanted Big Brovaz to win to take Eurovision away from the cheese

Personally I think Sweden's entry The Ark will walk away with it

Alex

Laugh? Cry? My jury is still out.

Not being a Eurovision historian I'm approximating... but didn't we always do better with an experienced music act rather than one of these pop confections?

Where is its audience? Where is its market? Where is its appeal (outside the UK couch potato waistland)?

It's guaranteed to score lower than Daz in Europe, with its risible choreography and dumb chirpy composition.

Meanwhile I think we're safe in saying that Europe will vote (for each other, yes, but...) for a music act with some kind of musical ability... and not for this primary colour window dressing.

It's an insult to the real musicians who put the effort in. I'm sure the votes on Saturday were from people who never watch Eurovision and still cherish the old Bing Bang Bong days. Rubbish.

Wogan doesn't help.

The musical taste of the UK public is certainly brought into question.

However, had the BBC ensured six quality songs, then they wouldn't have had the option to vote for such drivel.

This would never have happened in JK's day.

It suggests the TV voters can't read or use a computer... which figures.

Hear Hear Anthony. I'd have to go as far as saying this is the worst ever UK entry. Beggars belief how people could have voted for it. Not only was it the worst of the 6 acts, it was up against the best of the 6 in the sing off (Cyndi) and our moronic brain dead televoting public still couldn't differentiate between class and crass.

Hope it scores nul points, would be so richly deserved. I hear also - front page of paper today that they didnt sing live and used off set backing singers - other performers have complained about it.

Ah, just to clarify (I made most of the rules and know most of the rest of them due to running the UK end when we won - and had hits and decent entries)...

Acts can have up to 6 people in them and not all have to be on stage.

So a four piece CAN have two offstage backing singers - and why not?

Much though I loathe the Scooch song and all it stands for, you cannot criticise them on this.

And I still think Cyndi would have been a far better entrant. And the best song by a mile was I Can - ruined by so many silly mistakes.