Can anyone name ANY winner (other than Abba obviously !) who ever had a career after Eurovision?

Bucks Fizz had a couple more hits but their career had dried up within a couple of years.

I can't even remember any follow-ups from Gina G or Katrina !

My answer, MM, is that you can make of it what you deserve.

The obvious answer is... it didn't do Celine Dion any harm.

And my other point is - MOST big hitmakers have one (or 2 or 3) hits only and then a career based on those few successes. The real artistes are the tiny minority. Check the singles charts back anytime and you'll see 99% of the names never again hitting the top of the charts.

Brotherhood Of Man didn't do badly after it. They'd been around a while before it too.

Though, really, it doesn't matter. There are many artists who would love to be a one hit wonder - rather than a no hit wonder.

OK - 2 examples (out of Eurovision's, what, 50 year history?)

Celine (if I am right) re-emerged later (and not as a result of Eurovision?)

Brotherhood of Man followed quite a clever route really, got their hit, made their name and have continued to stay on the road for many years. They never had to change to a different career.

Johnny Logan isn't complaining about the breaks he got from EV.

Have you ever heard of Sandie Shaw? Lulu? Dana? I'm sure other winners from abroad had similar homespun success. People like Vicky Leandros and Nicole also had a few hits here after winning.

Good points Fred, I think you went back further than most of us, but it does illustrate our point about quality songs.

I still say it's what you make of it.

Any record label worth its salt should have snapped up DIMA BILAN after last year's Eurovision and turned him into a global star.

It's not Eurovision's fault. It's the fault of weak, useless record executives.

I think Sandie Shaw proves MY point - not yours !!!

She had been a successful artist for several years, but after "Puppet" hardly had a Top 20 again !

21 Sandie Shaw Tonight In Tokyo Jul 1967
18 Sandie Shaw You've Not Changed Oct 1967
27 Sandie Shaw Today Feb 1968
6 Sandie Shaw Monsieur Dupont Feb 1969
27 Sandie Shaw Hand In Glove Apr 1984

Much the same goes for Lulu - the career had all but dried up by the time of Boom Bang A Bang -

3 Lulu The Man Who Sold The World Jan 1974
37 Lulu Take Your Mama For A Ride Apr 1975
8 Lulu Shout Jul 1986
11 Lulu Independence Jan 1993
27 Lulu & Bobby Womack I'm Back For More Apr 1993
24 Lulu Where The Poor Boys Dance Mar 2000

Indeed, but who employed the "useless executives"?
Ah yes, the previous ones, spending other peoples money and taking a wage, and taking the occasional(?) developed act from the skint and forward thinking , risk ,taking, indies.

I think there is a genuine case now,(which i previously didn`t believe) for the sake of music, for the majors to genuinley part-time employ, on contract, indie A+R.

No scouting, no free-feedback from tips on gigs.

Wage these people, there is a lot of them out there.

I challenge one major A+R guy to tell me when he last went to a karaoke contest or light entertainment show to find members for a band like Scootch.

Dana? Yes - staggering follow-up career that was ! -

1 Dana All Kinds Of Everything Apr 1970
14 Dana Who Put The Lights Out Feb 1971
8 Dana Please Tell Him That I Said Hello Jan 1975
4 Dana It's Gonna Be A Cold Cold Christmas Dec 1975
31 Dana Never Gonna Fall In Love Again Mar 1976
13 Dana Fairytale Oct 1976

(Go on - admit it - you have never even HEARD any of the follow-up singles, have you?)

Manager Man wrote:
(Go on - admit it - you have never even HEARD any of the follow-up singles, have you?)


I have. I even bought a couple of them.

Ah yes MM, but she followed it up with a surprising career in politics as well due to her new fame.

It is debatable whether she would have been able to create the focus without the career boost from EuroV.

We all have to take our breaks where we can get them for what we want to do.

I did like "Cold Cold Xmas"though as well, aside from that.

Whatever happened to Dana International, the Israeli transvestite?

Anyway, let's not forget that the EV is supposed to be a song contest. And there have been a few memorable ones, although the last one I really remember is Tatu's Russian entry for some reason.

Mart wrote:
Ah yes MM, but she followed it up with a surprising career in politics as well due to her new fame.



Oh, well then - as long as she got SOME kind of career from it !!!

fred wrote:
People like Vicky Leandros and Nicole also had a few hits here after winning.

Sorry, Fred - your memory is playing tricks on you!

Vicky Leandros - just one week (at No 40) after Eurovision !

2 Vicky Leandros Come What May Apr 1972
40 Vicky Leandros The Love In Your Eyes Jan 1973

and Nicole ?

Never appeared in the chart again !

There are basically 2 types of act in Eurovision - the freaks / no-hopers who want 10 mins of fame (Jemini / Lordi / Dana International etc) and the has-beens who are desperately trying to hold onto / resurrect a career (Nicky French / Katrina etc)

Well yeah, "All Kinds Of Everything " was great, but Irish Pm for it? errrm ...nah..

KATRINA

I think she has a great voice and loads of future potential.

We need a good, middle aged diva with attitude and Katrina still has all that.

As for Nikki French - wasn't she the secret voice singing on the SCOOCH track? Something not yet discovered by the tabloids (but any day now).

Winner listed first (with UK chart position) - UK entry / UK chart position second ...

1956 Switzerland "Refrains"
Lys Assia (No UK entry)
1957 Netherlands "Net Als Toen"
Corry Broken "All"
Patricia Bredin 7th
1958 France "Dors Mon Amour"
Andre Claveau (No UK entry)
1959 Holland "Een Beetje"
Teddy Scholten "Sing Little Birdie"
Pearl Carr & Teddy Johnson 2nd 12
1960 France "Tom Pillibi"
Jacqueline Boyer 33 "Looking High High High"
Bryan Johnson 2nd 20
1961 Luxembourg "Nous Les Amoureux"
Jean Claude Pascal "Are You Sure"
Allisons 2nd 2
1962 France "Un Premier Amour"
Isabelle Aubret "Ring-A-Ding Girl"
Ronnie Carroll 4th 46
1963 Denmark "Dansevise"
Grethe & Jorgen Ingmann "Say Wonderful Things"
Ronnie Carroll 4th 6
1964 Italy "Non Ho L'eta Per Amarti"
Gigliola Cinquetti 17 "I Love The Little Things"
Matt Monro 2nd
1965 Luxembourg "Poupee De Cire Poupee De Son"
France Gall "I Belong"
Kathy Kirby 2nd 36
1966 Austria "Merci Cherie"
Udo Jurgens "A Man Without Love"
Kenneth Mc.Kellar 9th 30
1967 UK "Puppet On A String"
Sandie Shaw 1 "Puppet On A String"
Sandie Shaw 1st 1
1968 Spain "La La La"
Massiel 35 "Congratulations"
Cliff Richard 2nd 1
1969 UK "Boom-Bang-A-Bang"
Lulu 2 "Boom Bang-A-Bang"
Lulu 1st 2
joint France "Un Jour Un Enfant"
Frida Boccara
joint Netherlands "De Troubadour"
Lennie Kuhr
joint Spain "Vivo Cantando"
Salome
1970 Ireland "All Kinds Of Everything"
Dana 1 "Knock Knock Who's There"
Mary Hopkin 2nd 2
1971 Monaco "Un Banc Un Arbre Un Rue"
Severine 9 "Jack In The Box"
Clodagh Rodgers 4th 4
1972 Luxembourg "Apres Toi (Come What May)"
Vicky Leandros 2 "Beg Steal Or Borrow"
New Seekers 2nd 2
1973 Luxembourg "Tu Te Reconnaitras (Wonderful Dream)"
Ann-Marie David 13 "Power To All Our Friends"
Cliff Richard 3rd 4
1974 Sweden "Waterloo"
Abba 1 "Long Live Love"
Olivia Newton-John 4th 11
1975 Netherlands "Ding-A-Dong"
Teach-In 13 "Let Me Be The One"
Shadows 2nd 12
1976 UK "Save Your Kisses For Me"
Brotherhood Of Man 1 "Save Your Kisses For Me"
Brotherhood Of Man 1st 1
1977 France "L'oiseau Et L'enfant"
Marie Myriam 42 "Rock Bottom"
Lynsey De Paul & Mike Moran 2nd 19
1978 Israel "A Ba Ni Bi"
Izhar Cohen & Alphabeta 20 "Bad Old Days"
Co-Co 11th 13
1979 Israel "Hallelujah"
Milk & Honey 5 "Mary Ann"
Black Lace 7th 42
1980 Ireland "What's Another Year"
Johnny Logan 1 "Love Enough For Two"
Prima Donna 3rd 48
1981 UK "Making Your Mind Up"
Buck's Fizz 1 "Making Your Mind Up"
Buck's Fizz 1st 1
1982 Germany "Ein Bisschen Frieden (A Little Peace)"
Nicole 1 "One Step Futher"
Bardo 7th 2
1983 Luxembourg "Si La Vie Est Cadeu"
Corrine Hermes "I'm Never Giving Up"
Sweet Dreams 6th 21
1984 Sweden "Diggy-Loo Diggy-Ley"
Herrys 46 "Love Games"
Belle & The Devotions 7th 11
1985 Norway "La Det Swinge (Let It Swing)"
Bobbysocks 44 "Love Is"
Vikki 4th 49
1986 Belgium "J'aime La Vie"
Sandra Kim "Runner In The Night"
Ryder 7th
1987 Ireland "Hold Me Now"
Johnny Logan 2 "Only The Light"
Rikki 13th
1988 Switzerland "Ne Partez Sans Moi"
Celine Dion "Go"
Scott Fitzgerald 2nd
1989 Yugoslavia "Rock Me"
Riva "Why Do I Always Get It Wrong"
Live Report 2nd 73
1990 Italy "Insieme 1992"
Toto Cotugno "Give A Little Love Back To The World"
Emma 6th 33
1991 Sweden "Fangad Av En Stormvind"
Carola "A Message To Your Heart"
Samantha Janus 10th 30
1992 Ireland "Why Me"
Linda Martin 59 "One Step Out Of Time"
Michael Ball 2nd 20
1993 Ireland "In Your Eyes"
Naimh Kavanagh 24 "Better The Devil You Know"
Sonia 2nd 15
1994 Ireland "Rock N Roll Kids"
Paul Harrington & Charlie Mc.Gettigan "Lonely Symphony"
Francis Ruffelle 10th 25
1995 Norway "Nocturne"
Secret Garden "Love City Groove"
Love City Groove 10th 7
1996 Ireland "The Voice"
Eimar Quinn 40 "Ooh Ah...Just A Little Bit"
Gina G 8th 1
1997 UK "Love Shine A Light"
Katrina & The Waves 3 "Love Shine A Light"
Katrina & The Waves 1st 3
1998 Israel "Diva"
Dana International 11 "Where Are You"
Imaani 2nd 15
1999 Sweden "Take Me To Your Heaven"
Charlotte Nilsson 20 "Say It Again"
Precious 13th 6
2000 Denmark "Fly On The Wings Of Love"
Olsen Brothers "Don't Play That Song Again"
Nicki French 16th 34
2001 Estonia "Everybody"
Tanel Badar & Dave Benton "No Dream Impossible"
Lyndsay Dracass 15th 32
2002 Latvia "I Wanna"
Marie N "Come Back"
Jessica Garlick 3rd 13
2003 Turkey "Every Way That I Can"
Sertab Erener 72 "Cry Baby"
Jemini 26th (last) 15
2004 Ukraine "Wild Dance"
Ruslana 47 "Hold On To Our Love"
James Fox 16th 13
2005 Greece "My Number One "
Helena Paparizou "Touch My Fire"
Javine 22nd 18
2006 Finland "Hard Rock Hallelujah"
Lordi 25 "Teenage Life"
Daz Sampson 19th 8