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TOPIC: Scooch in at 5
#19052
Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
So what does that tell you?
Major label hype continues?
More money than sense?
Or Europe got it wrong and they are the future of music?
 
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#19054
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
The second line.
Read my post on "your views".
 
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#19056
In The Know

Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
It shows the "sheep" public falling for the last minute hype before the contest - watch it drop to about 150 this week.
 
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#19058
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
I'm afraid it looks to me like the button got pressed by the MD (Korda?) and the majors can still get a top 5 place without any real effort, being unaware that it no longer matters, does not increase sales, fails to acquire that coveted Top of the Pops slot, does not convince retail chains to order unless, with SOR, they have nothing to lose but shelf space.

In a word, 1997 thinking in 2007.

Will, I wonder, the August Scooch album release be the smallest seller of all time?
 
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#19059
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
I really don`t think anybody would want a whole album of that.
The image has been too strictly sorted for the act on the one song.
Twelve different songs and twelve different images to go with them?
That`s a finacial nightmare.
 
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#19063
The Cat

Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
Well, I've been and talked to a few teens about the Scooch song and most of them seem to love it. Yes, they have downloaded it, and actually been out and bought the CD, so there are some genuine fans among the 'Yoof'. It doesn't take many sales to reach Number 5 these days. I really don't see any hype here.

Among the teens I spoke to, I could not find one who liked the Serbia song, but it's also noteable that none liked the Turkey entry either (UK gave it 12 points), but none of them voted on the night.

Maybe we are all just getting old and losing touch with the musical tastes of the younger singles buying public.
 
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#19077
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
The Scooch song isn't a terrible song... the performance is.
 
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#19119
popfan

Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
A number of things.
First UK sales are quite weak, so #5 is really nothing to shout about.
Secondly the Scooch song is actually quite good in it's one hit wonder type of way. Doesn't appeal to the oldies, but it's ideal fun for the school kids. It's school kids that bought it also. Because it sold really well on the Saturday compared to the rest of the week.

Now about Eurovision. It was always going to flop. And here is why.
Firstly if your in the UK, you don't realise there is a semi-final Eurovision taking place 2 days before. The songs that qualify from the semi-final do better then the songs entering straight into the final.
Why is that? Quite simply millions of people listening to a song twice is a massive advantage of listen to a song just once. Especially as watching Eurovision is like a family thing for many and you can talk about your semi-final favourite 2 days before the final. So in short many have already choosen who they are going to vote for from a list that doesn't include those songs going straight to the final. Then combine that with the fact of a double listen of all the semi-finalists and your way ahead.
The reason the UK enter straight into the final by the way is that BBC pay a lot of money to guarantee the UK a final place.

Second reason, the song is about flying, the visuals was about flying. The UK is an island, we are used to flying. But most of Europe are not, does the average person in lativa, serbia, poland etc fly? No they don't it's rarely they fly.
Now where did Scooch gets it's vote, from the UK initially to qualify where we fly, also from Ireland another island and 12 points from MALTA! Of course, a island where they fly in any out all the time.

So there you have it. Mystery solved.
 
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#19123
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
I don't believe that the songs from the semi final have a significant advantage. Ukraine finished second and Russia third as pre-qualified songs, and four out of the top ten, and 5 of the top eleven were also finalists. Two years ago Greece won as a finalist.

The TV viewers from eastern Europe failed to vote for UK because they didn't like the song, not because of any unfamiliarity with air travel.

Serbia won because it was the best song by a country mile, and would still have won even with the removal of all the eastern European votes.
 
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#19124
The Cat

Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
I agree that it's mostly kids who bought the Scooch single, because it is a fun song.

Not sure abut the rest of your reasoning though. Most people heard most of the songs well before the semi final, via internet and other media, wherever they were in the world. I also don't think the subject of the song made too much difference. Many people across Europe do fly regularly, while I (in the UK) hardly fly at all.

I'd been in dicussions about my favourite entries weeks before the final.

My choice didn't win. It originated too far west.
 
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#19127
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
If a certain tipsters plan is to believed( I have no idea who this is), next years UK entry hopeful is being submitted in the Spanish language.
Not a chance of course , but what fun.

I seem to recall that this was what it was about.
 
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#19136
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
UK doing a song in Spanish would be fun, but with such an ethnically diverse country, I've often wondered why we don't try an Indian or Pakistani group for Eurovision. Good ethnic music does well in the contest nowadays.

A song in Punjabi or Urdu? Why not, and it would still be a genuine UK song.

Oh well, I've just got home after a nerve tingling evening watching my beloved Derby scrape through to the Play Off final on penalties, so perhaps I'm not at my best for making sense right now!
 
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#19137
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
Some of us are huge Brian Clough fans Ant!
 
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#19163
Re:Scooch in at 5 18 Years, 1 Month ago  
Remember you mentioning this before, JK. I would expect no less from a man of your taste and judgment. He was a great man indeed, and dearly loved still in Derby and Nottingham.

I drive on Brian Clough Way every day. They are to build a monument to him at Pride Park in Derby.
 
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