How can they get away with this www.pop-creations.com , ripping boys and girls off conning them into buying a book on how to put together a band and be successful. Bands hopes are gonna be raised, whilst the production company have already got the finalised band together. And that steven Foster, what a c**k isn't his only real claim to fame being involved with the pizza hut, pizza hut, kentucky fried chicken and a pizza hut song. Obviously got a nice classy newspaper behing them then, news of the world. How can we stop people like him, making kids spend their money on a pointless book, no wonder so many people think the industry is wrecked at the moment, try signing some decent talent mate, none of this manufactured c**p.

In reality - is it actually any different from say X Factor ?

No different at all. They are all complete cons. The so called music industry is in a terrible state. If you went to The Brit School, have a regional accent, get someone else to write your songs, are related or know someone in the business, then you have a chance. Unfortunately there are many really talented people who will never have the opportunity to show their real potential. They lose out and so do the music loving public who will never get to hear them.

What is your problem with it ? I'm sorry I don't agree with your criticism at all. If any band doesn't like it they DON'T BUY IT. Tres simple no ?

If anything this is a great idea for songwriters to find new talent to sing their songs. Let me tell you if this brings more pop acts to the market the better.

I am personally sick to death of all the serious indie bands and folky singer songwriters whom many think are the only legitimate singers out there. No No No.

There is nothing wrong with Pop Creations and the more manufactured bands the better. The world was a lot more fun than the depressing sound-a-like rock nonsense we are getting now.

At least with pop bands they are not snorting half of Afghanistan up their noses.

Ps Music insider thanks for the link. You have actually done them a favour.

As for talented people not getting heard, Jeez have you not heard of Youtube ? Go and read about Esme Danters.

In General......As long as there is a music industy this kind of thing will happen to varying degrees. This also happens in the modeling world. I've seen a lot of production-mill scam artists out there. Its the only way they can make a living. My take in general and advice to kids is that if a legitimate industry person believes you can be a star, then you should not have to pay that person a dime, and he/she will make sure you are impartially represented where fiduciary matters are concerned.

People who prey upon kids hopes and dreams, where most of the kids don't have the talent to begin with, are the worst kind of scumbags.

GG what on earth are you talking about ?

Are you saying anyone who charges 7 quid for a book is ripping off artists ?

How about recording studios, producers, remixers who charge a fee and in the case of producers points as well. I think you are wrong with this outfit.

They are only selling a DVD with advice. How is that exploitation ? Did you ever buy an instructional book ?

This is hardly a pay for play or pay for representation scam and in fact this sort of knee jerk reaction is totally wrong.

I'd have slightly more faith if they could actually spell Management !

http://www.pop-creations.com/news.php?news_id=15

No, I wasn't talking about that book, I did say in general. It just got me going on a rant of the things I see out there, that do exist.

and you're right GG...there is so much ripping off going on it makes me feel sick. If only people would play it straight, they would make better music and more money in the long run for everyone involved.