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Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times)
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Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
 
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Big End

Re:Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
without a doubt, the acts concerned would be nowhere if it were not for the back room grafters. However, this is showbiz...do the public really care? I think not.
 
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#28685
Re:Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I examined this - many friends in the list - and was deeply unimpressed.

As usual, when outsiders compile a list, they miss the point entirely.
 
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#28697
Re:Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Two (related) points:

1. There are no internet-types on the list.
2. Half the list (ok, three) was involved in the success of the Artic Monkeys.
 
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#28809
Walter Sobchak

Re:Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
As with many so Best of lists, this is very of the moment and very keen to be as trendy. It celebrates Duffy,and all things Universal, and a little nod towards Sony/BMG.Domngo as the most successful Indie is over represented, perhaps.
There are a number of omissions, some crass , others largely unknown. It also depends on the axis you take.
Any PR list would have to include Alan Edwards , head of Outside, Barbara Charone, PR for Madonna ,REM and Neil Diamond to name a current crop, and Gary Farrow, with his access to Cowell, the Osbournes and Richard Desmond. Management ought to begin with Richard Griffiths at Modest for his X Factor connection, Jazz Summers, Peter Mensch, Paul McGuinness and Peter Leak.
Radio should include Lesley,Douglas Jeff Smith and Lewis Carney from Radio 2 .TV must have Mark Cooper the presiding spirit behind Later with Jools.... , the ONE SHOW team and the Jonathan Ross TV bookers. One could go on. No-one from catalogue is mentioned - Phil Savill at Sony, Andy Daw at Universal and Stuart Batsford / Mick Houghton a great freelance team.
Oh yes , plenty of unsung heroes.
 
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#28839
SW

Re:Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
That would be Alan Edwards who flogs promo CDs on Amazon and eBay, then.
 
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UB40 Split 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I read the list then a link to an interview with Ali Campbell on the same page caught my eye, and i discovered UB40 are no more One of my fav band's, shocked! Just seemed like they would go on forever. I know Ali has and is releasing solo stuff but i doubt it will be the same without the band.

R.I.P
 
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Clifford

Re:UB40 Split 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
"If it happens again i'm leaving". Prophetic words indeed.
 
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GG (producer)

Re:Music's top 20 star-makers (according to the Times) 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I've been part of the MPG since its inception, and I'm quite certain that their push for the "Backroom Brits" means producers and engineers, not label execs. I could be wrong.

People actually involved in the artistic process, as it were.

I've been lobbying NARAS for years to make the producer Grammy on onstage event, as it should be. Many of thre acts /records simply wouldn't exist without us.

Think of the best director oscar not being an onstage event. It would be absurd.

Now you're going to get me going on this one....All the power to Cowell for mass saturation exposing middling talent, that can't sellout a theater, and then going on TV and saying he's sold as many albums as Bruce Springsteen, who could sell out every football stadium in the world, tomorrow!

Its just not the same thing, let's call the kettle black, OK. Its not genius. Its ratio mass marketing It is in fact an unsustainable driver. Carrie Underwood is the only exception out of what, eight or ten winners all told, and isn't that the ratio from the old major label model to get a lasting hit act? Billboard did quite an in depth article not long ago on the slow build, as opposed to hype, and its an eye opener to anyone outside our business.

Once again... Jimmy Iovine....."You could put Moe from the 3 Stooges on TRL for 2 weeks and he would have a platinum album"
 
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