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The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
 
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#29785
Walter Sobchak

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Well as you and your tiny band of sycophants know deep down, this film is a desperate and rather unpleasant cri de coeur shrieking a tad too loudly over the way you consider society and in particular its guardians have treated you. The content I have seen I thought disgraceful- "B*gg*ring Boys" indeed, and simply does nothing except give you a disreputable and oddly sullied air. I will watch more to see if any part of it 'entertains' me. I am not hopeful.
 
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#29786
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Walter - you are quite entitled to enjoy the film or not as the case may be. That's the beauty of freedom of expression.
 
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#29787
danny in the middle

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I'm glad Walter posted - it shows that people have different opinions. And it shows you are prepared to post them.

I wasn't going to put up my opinions but now I will. I found lots of it funny, some of it very tasteless (which I liked), some of the music very good and some very bad, the overall effect interesting and entertaining.

A bit too long, a few too many songs but certainly worth watching and better than 98% of what's on TV.

And it is a very effective way of making documentary points whilst getting viewers tapping their toes and chuckling.

There you go Walter. I'm in the middle.

Oh and I thought the Oscar Wilde song was brilliant by the way.
 
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#29789
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
OK... the film! I downloaded the XVid version and it took just 25 minutes which was impressive as are the amount of choices as to what format to go for. Picture and sound were crisp and clear.

I largely enjoyed the film... gave me quite a few laughs, a couple of shocks and the music was generally excellent. I too thought the Oscar Wilde piece was great and I adored the "Mad Hatters Teaparty" sequence... very cute lady!

I did think it was perhaps a touch overlong, (echoing the thoughts of Danny In The Middle) but the film made me laugh, grimace in shock, tap my toes and sing along to the music and it was genuinely thought provoking and Fun. I cannot say that about many films. In fact it's rare I can ever sit through a film these days.

Nice one JK and many thanks for the film. I'm certain it is destined to become a cult classic.
 
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#29790
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Thank you Elliott and thank you Danny and Walter - it is always good to read someone prepared to admit openly to homophobia, Walter. I'm sure you wouldn't object to "There's nothing wrong with making love to girls".

Or perhaps you see monsters everywhere?

Baby I Love You? My God, protect those prams Walter!
 
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#29791
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Walter, old bean, you do read like one of those journos`that may have been scared to attend the screening.

All the hacks were there and most of them ended up interviewing each other in error!
 
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Toby

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Walter - Shami song was a great piss take on the You Tube/My Space thing and indie scene and both sides of liberty. The biggybig song was very funny about rap and hip hop. that whats a girl to do song was a brilliant comment on the Girls Aloud and Spice thing or perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I saw much more in there than you seem to see.
 
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#29820
Mike Willis

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
To be honest, until I am able to have time to do it at home, I won't be able to download it.

Unfortunately as our workplace is word sensitive, if I typed in vile pervert, I suspect they would not allow me to go into the website. You can't do a search for Essex on our internet.

Anyway I managed to see the Wilde about Boys song, on You Tube, which I found very amusing.

As for everyone's diverse opinions, this is the reason why I continue to log onto the site. I agree with Danny in the middle, that JK is prepared to put up negative feedback from Walter, because he knows that everybody is entitled to a point of view on the film and not everybody is going to like it.

However, when I am get a chance to see it, I always judge it on the content and the storyline, I suspect that there was a bit of homophobia on Walter's part.

I never actually realised that JK was bisexual until this wrongful arrests took place, I was just interested in the things he did in the media and on the Radio/TV and became a fan for it. I was not interested in his personal life, unfortunately for the media, that is what they are more interested in now.
 
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#29824
SW

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I'm appalled at the Wilde song, considering the allegations made against you. And don't try to pass it off as post-modern irony...it's as if you have a fetish for being hoisted by your own petard. Very amateurishly shot and it would have been an idea to mix the vocals higher if you (presumably) do want the words to be heard. Walter's on the money about sycophants on this site.
 
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#29827
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Appalled by what SW?
The suggestion that Oscar Wilde might have agreed with the sentiment?
The concept of me portraying him after having suffered false allegations?
The fact that I dare write a song suggesting that same gender love is acceptable?
If you're just appalled by the lack of quality in the music or video, I can only say I did my best.
 
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#29833
Mike Willis

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I am not a sycophant to start with. When I watch JK's new musical, I will judge it on the quality of the music or video, rather than the other aspects of it (as JK alluded to).

If a certain ex Rolling-Stones member decided to write a musical and included underage sex with a 13 year old female, then I would guarantee there would be no raised eyebrows or comments.
 
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#29834
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Mr Willis, the anti homophobic attitude in your post pleases me.
Two things though.

Jk`s film, gave the public what they asked for and mocked them for asking the obvious.
I got that part.

What I don`t understand is what a sycophant is.
Do they encounter cheesemakers also?
 
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#29835
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
A sycophant is a Psychotic Elephant, Mart, everybody knows that.
 
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#29836
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
I get , EMI!
 
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#29840
Mike Willis

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
According to Wikipedia, that ever reliable source (or is unreliable).

A sycophant (Gr. (συκοφάντης)) is a servile person who, acting in their own self interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential person, with an undertone that this is at the cost of their own personal pride, principles, and peer respect.

Now I am confused, what the heck does servile mean?

I am genuinely looking forward to watching it over the weekend, how many views now?
 
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#29841
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Well there you go.
If the author has flattered himself in the film, I will bite the sycemielephent bullet.
 
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#29849
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Walter - you describe it as..."shrieking a tad too loudly over the way you consider society and in particular its guardians have treated you."

Might I suggest you tell me how When Caravaggio Met MichelAngelo fits this? Or much of the rest of the film come to that.

Of course, one of the premises of art is allowing observers to see the mirror of their own reflection in the work of others.
 
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#29851
Usual S**t

Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Usual crap from Walt and SW, why don't they both crawl back under the rocks or pieces of s**t they came from? I love the fact that all comments are posted here, good or bad, but this site would be a far better place without their unintelligent, ignorant comments.
 
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#29852
Re:The Evening Standard piece on the screening 17 Years, 2 Months ago  
Ah but US - I'm delighted that they do come and read and post - they will disagree on some things and agree on others but they contribute and comment and have the courage to express their opinions.

God bless them both and the many others who do post - and perhaps some of the thousands who visit, read and don't post might feel that they can comment without fear.

Only the brain dead or the malicious or those with hidden agendas get bumped off.

Genuine differences of opinion are healthy and appreciated.

I have to tell you, if I wasn't me I think I might very well loathe me!
 
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