Well you know who you are so why don't you show some balls for a change. Sign Ed Case and Oggie's "All I wanna do". It was given a favourable review on here and now with a new bassline remix I think you have everything you need to show your bosses why you deserve that promotion. Pass it over and you would have missed an opportunity to break something special. By the way I don't have a vested interest in the track but I just love it. Check it out now.

http://www.myhotmusic.com/myhotmusic

I really like the video, but will never be a fan of the song, but that`s my own personal taste, the world would be well boring if we all liked the same stuff.
Totally different style, but also a lively video, try this.

videodigs.com/michael/Michael_Wookey_I_Can_Show_You_Things

Remixing that crap is akin to polishing a turd. It will never be a hit.

It sounds awfully manufactured in a late 80s kinda way. I don't personally like it, but I can say that about most of the current top 40, so that doesn't prove anything.

I wonder if there is such a thing as an easy summer hit these days (or ever). I've often thought that record labels don't have a clue about timings of releases. Hanson could have been massive if they'd quickly followed MmmmBop with "Look At You" for the summer dance market. They waited too long, released the wrong follow-up, and messed up Hanson's promotion in the UK. Although with digital downloads release dates are kinda 'old hat' now.

SW wrote:
Remixing that crap is akin to polishing a turd. It will never be a hit.Don't know which one you were referring to SW but I'm not too keen on the "Ed Case & Oggie" track.

Michael Wookey is great although the link didn't work for me, found it on Youtube though:

Maybe so that digital has rendered release dates unnecessary but they are still being used. Did you guys listen to the bassline version of oggie's track. I'm not a fan of that scene but it got my tapping to it in the same way Heartbroken did. Chavtastic but a hit nonetheless.

I was suprised to see that it was my track that KZ thought would be a an easy summer hit thats great, it's cool if it is not everyones thing, I know how the Britsh music industry feels about UK Garage, it is seen as Chav music, but these so called chavs are British children and they are the people that we are selling music too.

I really wish that a creative sound that was established by our country could be respected, we are the ones writing it, producing it, and dancing to it in clubs...

Either way All I Wanna Do (Baseline Mix)has proved thst it could be a hit by spending the last 5 weeks in the top 5 on the BBC 1xtra UK Garage chart, it's not signed and doasn't have mass airplay but our vynils have flown of the shelf and it's been released on vynil twice.

It's a shame cos back in the day if an artist had already proven that there song could be a smash there would be no argument in getting it signed...

Garage to me is just pop music with better beats behind it, there is nothing wrong with good old fashion pop songs , thats what made the 80's so iconic

In general I think the music industry needs to really embrace UK music on all levels alot more, we have some of the most amazing talent in all musical genres and we should recognise that much more.

Oggie, I couldn't agree with you more. Out of all the dance music subgenres, garage had the biggest potential especially as it was a UK creation. The irony is that the US producers are taking elements of it and putting it in their new hits.

The problem now is that there aren't any labels committed to Garage with the right a&r skills and belief to take it from the underground into the mainstream.

It seems that it is left to the artist/management to do it themselves. We're back to the old chesnut of DIY/Pros. What I would say, Oggie is to keep plugging away but put your mind towards a pop crossover and possibly learn from previous eras and artists who managed to do this particularly in the 80s but just use garage as the basis of your pop sound.

I could go on but artists like Phil Fearon and Galaxy comes to mind as well as Five Star who did an amazing thing but with a close knit artist/management/label team, completely self-contained but well aware and savvy at the time.

It isn't impossible but I think for yourself you might need to present yourself more as a complete artist. You have a knack of writing good songs and I think you have a great voice.

Thanks so much KZ, i take everything you've said on board 100% and agree with you totally. I'm trying to finish an EP at the moment so i can present a style and sound which defines me more as an artist rather than just a feature on Dance tracks.

You are totally right aswell, alot of the great producers from the US, Neptunes, Timberland are very very Garage and Drum n Bass influenced, Madonna even has a Scar beat on her current album produced by Pharrell, so many great sounds are created by Brits but yet we don't seem to appreciate that until someone from overseas presents it as there own. It's a shame!

I will deffo do some research on how those artist went about crossing over, finding good management is on the agenda also.

Thank You

Oggie

Problem is not the style, it's the song. It's weak.

No wonder this industry is such a state if you think 'all I wanna Do' is a weak song. You A&R men will be lucky to still you have your jobs in 6 months time. Regardless of the style its a well written,melodic and with distinctive vocals from Oggie.Can you give me an example of a a new british male vocalist with such a expressive voice? Or has written, distributed and sold records themselves on the underground?

He has proven to sell (vinyl)records, get airplay and have a well produced video and yet this snotty british music industry prefer to hype up and waste money on Ting Tings who wont even be around in 6 months...

Take it easy Mr Big. One thing that I do love about the UK music industry is that it is possible for anyone to break a record. Ok, let me qualify this. You do need to have tenacity and strength of character but who can forget TUG Records and Right Said Fred ? Or how about 4Liberty Records and all the tracks they broke.

It just takes one person to say yes and if no one does then find a good business partner and DIY. Good luck.

Mr Big must be Oggie's mate. Look, it's a shit song and he's not exactly Donny Hathaway.

From a song's point of view it is as good as many a pop song. It has the right elements, it's catchy, feelgood and does what is required.

You may argue about the style of music and debate about the vocals of the singers. Tell me who your favourite singers are and chances are many of them are nowhere near Donny Hathaway. You come across as someone who just wants to hate the song without being constructive.

It is like another person on the other messageboard criticizing Gabriella Cilmi by saying she was awful. If you cannot string more than a few phrases and be constructive in your criticism, perhaps you should shut up and go back to the 6th form.

No, I am not Oggie's mate, but the world doesn't revolve around stupid kitsch artist and trendy guitar bands. Go figure !

Oggie, you got a myspace?

www.myspace.com/garykennon

Yeh mate it's myspace.com/oggieuk

Sounds like most other music from that genre. Nothing cutting edge or new about the track at all.

DJKZ, you are irritating beyond belief. It's a poor song, the vocals are weak and the mix is amateurish. End of story. Stop being patronising.

And don't presume what "kind" of music I'm into. I'm into UK garage, but this is a shit example of it.

So SW doesn't like the song. Big deal. But SW still cannot string a decent argument and can only talk in poor one line sentences.

Now SW can you tell us what, in your opinion, constitutes a good song ? Or perhaps a good mix ? Especially UK Garage which as a genre of music is not reknowned for its sonic brilliance or its compositional excellence ?

Did you like Daniel Bedingfield's bedroom masterpiece "Gotta get through this" ? Or did you write if off as a poor mix, with a lightweight bass etc ?

Or how about "Do you really like it", "Heartbroken" I guess you would say it's chav music ?

SW, perhaps you can rehphrase your posts and say something like "I don't like it" instead of "It's a poor song" because if you say it is a poor song you need to back that statement up with a decent argument could you even define what a good song is ? If you can't do that then stick to a "subjective" opinion or be prepared for someone like me to pull you up and ask you to explain youself. If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen mate.

Now I see you don't like it when the boot is on the other foot and you are getting defensive. Oggie is an artist who has come on this board because perhaps he felt that the juvenile, 6th formers populated the other boards and a more mature approach is adopted here. Most people on here are constructive and don't go out to destroy an artist's effort with banal and insulting comments.

Especially from someone who cannot take the heat that they are dishing out. I can point you to the other boards where slanging matches are routine and nasty, hurtful comments are commonplace. They start with R and V and you can Google their names.

Glasshouses, stones and people come to mind SW.

You're like the village idiot who keeps on coming back for more. What constitutes a good song? I could talk absolute musicological bollocks about this, but what would be the point? It's about how it grabs you...there has to be a decent hook there. There isn't in this song. The chorus is unmemorable, and no amount of remixing is going to solve that. Oggie's voice is nasal and does nothing for me.

What constitutes a good mix? If you have to ask, you're beyond help...a good mix is one where all musicial elements are intergrated with nothing jumping out overshadowing the vocal. The vocal's a bit lost in places. This qualifies it as a bad mix. A bit more compression across the track wouldn't have hurt.

Re Daniel Bedingfield, the track was recorded in a bedroom but remixed by a production team called D&D. And the mix is better.

"Heartbroken" is shite. "Do You Really Like It" is a great track. I'm not writing off a genre. Re-read my posts. What IS your problem?

Don't tell me how to word my posts. Any fool would appreciate that I'm voicing my opinion when I say that it's a poor song. How patronising you are to tell me how to articulate...disgraceful. My opinion is no more valid in the grand scheme of things than yours, but your delusions of grandeur seem to have convinced you otherwise. Who the hell are you?

I can "take the heat"...you're the one who keeps coming back posting absolute condescending drivel. Accept my opinion, as it's not going to change.

You don't seem to accept that once an artist puts something in the public domain, it's up for a potential drubbing. It's not nice for the artist concerned, but frankly, if they can't handle it, they shouldn't be doing it. Oggie doesn't seem to be voicing his dissent, so it looks like he can handle it.

Lastly, I'm not your mate, so don't refer to me as such, mate.