It's like Jesus! Or the Tortoise and the Hare!
Or the full force of Chris Moyles and Chris Evans... but Alex is still building well at 4 (Donkey roars ahead at 3) - funnily enough, my Cuban Boys got to No4 with their Hamster Song.

What is it about animals at Christmas? (Sorry J&B, not implying soldiers are animals).

But my main point is the significance of what's happening - the "new model" is starting to function and hey, corporations, it doesn't need major labels or publishers. Or the radio and TV programmers who just obey major label pluggers. A very, very interesting and positive development.

The "old" model as we must call it I suppose, has delivered 315k for the Christmas no 1 so far and the Military Wives will end up selling 550k at current levels.The other contenders may sell 60k, and young Alex is going backwards as I predicted.

Never mind the Donkey ... The way things are going, it looks like this year's Christmas No1 will be a Turkey.

You have a great point Dodger and I applaud your support for "the old model" - doing terrifically well and saving the music industry as you've clearly noticed. It's exhilarating to have someone with such depth of appreciation for our industry contributing to The Tip Sheet. Without you bringing us down to earth we'd all be deluding ourselves, finding new ways to discover, expose and encourage talent. You and the rest of Fagin's Gang are showing us the real way and not robbing us of our sanity purses.

Dodger says "Military Wives are the future of British music". How wise.

Haven't they all been a 'Turkey' at X-mas ? I wish really free by John Otway made to Number 1 that X-mas but it only came close.

Ahh, sarcasm , the final refuge and defence of JK, Piers Morgan andthe other thoroughly irritating clever dicks who think they know it all.

The "Old model" needs overhauling not least because there are 3 businesses in our record industry, the young tear the walls re-invent everything one , the mass market Adele one and the grey buying catalogue and the occasional left field item -Robert Plant/Alison Krause.

The biggest problem is the retail one for any kind of physical purchase.Simon Fox at HMV looks like he may be addressing it correctly in 2012 by going back to selling music not T Shirts.
And for the record , The Military Wives represents something rather admirable , charming and comfortable about Middle England. Don't knock it, and never never knock our armed services.

Never never never would I dream of knocking our admirable armed forces Dodger; where would we all be without our noble leaders in their quest for cheap oil using our tax monies to employ people who are happy to kill other people in our name?

the Artful Dodger wrote:
Ahh, sarcasm , the final refuge and defence of JK, Piers Morgan andthe other thoroughly irritating clever dicks who think they know it all.

The "Old model" needs overhauling not least because there are 3 businesses in our record industry, the young tear the walls re-invent everything one , the mass market Adele one and the grey buying catalogue and the occasional left field item -Robert Plant/Alison Krause.

The biggest problem is the retail one for any kind of physical purchase.Simon Fox at HMV looks like he may be addressing it correctly in 2012 by going back to selling music not T Shirts.
And for the record , The Military Wives represents something rather admirable , charming and comfortable about Middle England. Don't knock it, and never never knock our armed services.

You're only here to score points,and it's getting a bit jaded.
Move on,the world is an exciting enough place to have to waste time on this.
Merry xmas to ye

Alex Day down to 14 on iTunes. I do hope it makes Top 10 on Sunday.

Fair comment . I shall move on , in fact I shall move out permanently.
farewell

Ooh flouncy flouncy flouncy! Off to join the army and kill people, Dodger?

David - we always knew the iTunes placing would drop but all the remixes are solidly in their Top 100 and, combined, Alex is at No4 on the Official Chart Midweeks - and hopefully will at least stay Top Ten if not Top 5; pretty good for a first single.

His sales are pushing 40,000 in the UK alone ("going backwards as I predicted" - the late unlamented Dodger) - many more around the world - it's charted in Sweden, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand, the USA and many other territories. Will almost certainly top 100,000 in its first week.

Yeah - we're not on Universal or championed by Chris Evans or Moylesy or Simon Cowell but I think Alex can hold his head up with pride and joy.

It's certainly been a damn good Christmas for him.

JK2006 wrote:

David - we always knew the iTunes placing would drop but all the remixes are solidly in their Top 100 and, combined, Alex is at No4 on the Official Chart Midweeks - and hopefully will at least stay Top Ten if not Top 5; pretty good for a first single.

His sales are pushing 40,000 in the UK alone ("going backwards as I predicted" - the late unlamented Dodger) - many more around the world - it's charted in Sweden, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand, the USA and many other territories. Will almost certainly top 100,000 in its first week.

Yeah - we're not on Universal or championed by Chris Evans or Moylesy or Simon Cowell but I think Alex can hold his head up with pride and joy.

It's certainly been a damn good Christmas for him.

I agree JK, even if it just gets top 20 it makes a really good point.

I've followed your Sons of Admirals chums off and on and they are talented chaps with engaging personalities (hence why the youtube blog-style approach is great.

It's not the best written or best produced song technically, but it's damned catchy and oozes positivity, and sometimes that's actually more important in my opinion.

the Artful Dodger wrote:
Fair comment . I shall move on , in fact I shall move out permanently.
farewell

You're not getting away that easily
Stay and make some positive contributions,sure you're more than capable,this is one of the few places around that doesn't 'toe the meejah line'.

".... one of the few places around that doesn't 'toe the meejah line"

This forum is just as closed to open debate as other places. The Artful Dodger shared a lot of the concerns I have and think it's a shame that JK is rejoicing in the fact they have left. there are already too many sycophants on this board so it was nice to actually hear some different opinions.

We're happy to hear different opinions Blue Boy but equally people are welcome to flounce off in a blaze of feathers and sequins if they so wish.

JK2006 wrote:
We're happy to hear different opinions Blue Boy but equally people are welcome to flounce off in a blaze of feathers and sequins if they so wish.

Jk, You've missed out a piece of the process, what has been happening is :
1 - Different Opinions expressed
2 - One of the regular contributors disagree and tell the person to leave
3 - They flounce off in a blaze of feathers and sequins 

Here's what Innocent Accused posted earlier in this thread " You're only here to score points,and it's getting a bit jaded. Move on,the world is an exciting enough place to have to waste time on this. Merry xmas to ye" 

Well I'm perfectly happy for posters to say "move on" and equally happy for the instructions to be ignored.

Unlike other forums we're not closed to open debate.

My very very last last post (not flouncing in feathers and sequins I'll be back). I suppose I'm one of the sycophants blue refers to. However I've always had the urge to call JK a wonky faced egomaniac!

Having said that I find it quite staggering that there are people here who feel they know enough about the media to give him advice. That's akin to sitting Paul McCartney down and giving him tips on how to write hit songs, or advising Alex Ferguson on the best ways to manage a football team.

I dare say that JK has been relatively more successful than most here in promotion, media and peddling hits.

Right I'm deffo off this time.

Blue Boy wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
We're happy to hear different opinions Blue Boy but equally people are welcome to flounce off in a blaze of feathers and sequins if they so wish.

Jk, You've missed out a piece of the process, what has been happening is :
1 - Different Opinions expressed
2 - One of the regular contributors disagree and tell the person to leave
3 - They flounce off in a blaze of feathers and sequins 

Here's what Innocent Accused posted earlier in this thread " You're only here to score points,and it's getting a bit jaded. Move on,the world is an exciting enough place to have to waste time on this. Merry xmas to ye" 

BB you're taking things out of context,and as such will not get full enjoyment of your time here as a result.
The move on reference was for this topic,not out of the board.Also Jk never told him to leave,just joked about his dramatic exit.
There is a fine line between honest debate,and point scoring.In my view he crossed over the line,but that said I actually took the trouble to invite him to stay.
I'm sure your grievances have been noted,but remember this is JK's board,and as such we must expect it to reflect his likes and opinions.
The net is a big place,and finding comfortable places is not so easy.So it's worth looking after them when we do.

Happy xmas to ye sir

Whether point scoring or valid arguments, lunatic posts (ITK & BR) or
intelligent observations (ITK & BR), JK bragging or giving good advice,
others slagging him off or agreeing with him, let's keep this board going.
All are welcome especially the naysayers as it helps move the debate on.
As for giving JK advice, anyone is entitled to give their opinion, advice,
admonishments, rebukes or otherwise. Your prior success means nothing as
we are all in the same boat in the here and now.
JK is unlikely to get any major airplay anytime soon so has certainly done
his bit for the new model as have others on this board. This makes them
qualified enough to dish out advice.
It is comments like those expressed by the Fat Controller that makes one
jaded and bored. But keep them coming.