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TOPIC: Was Hitler a Zionist?
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Re:Was Hitler a Zionist? 7 Years, 1 Month ago
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Hitler wanted the Jews out of Germany and the Zionist wanted to get to Israel so, of course, he would favour the movement. Was he a Zionist, no.
Hitler was a german nationalist and wanted all German speaking, not Jews of course, united thus the annexing of Austria and so on. If you follow his initial expansion you will see it was where german speaking people were living and formed a large to major part of the population.
"Hitler was not personally involved in the negotiation of the agreement, and his views on it appear to have shifted over time." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
But I agree the Ken Livingston and all "the going on" was total nonsense. Even that guy Irving (Known as the holocaust denier) has the odd justifiable point but he like most people see only their own view. People are not reasonable nor open minded. That is the real problem. If they were then they would not be threatened by open and frank discussion.
Nationalism can be good and nationalism can be bad. Jewish settlements appear to have a total disregard of other people living in the same areas. If what I see is true it is very sad that the people involved are acting no difference to the germans who persecuted the Jews. Surely they should learn from the past evil.
Nationalist should have a greater goal than uniting or separating, that was what was wrong with the Scottish movement their goal was to separate from the UK but never clear what their plan was for a better society. The goal they had was purely nationlistic. A pity.
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Re:Was Hitler a Zionist? 7 Years, 1 Month ago
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A Zionist is a person who believes/suports the development and protection of the Jewish nation.
Put simply, Hitler was not - he despised them, and set up ways to exterminate them; Ken should have been more specific.
One of the most horrific episodes in human history - when commented on - needs concise and accurate points.
Yes Ken may have been right on an ancillary view - but totally wrong in the much bigger, relevant and important context...
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Re:Was Hitler a Zionist? 7 Years, 1 Month ago
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Spee wrote:
A Zionist is a person who believes/suports the development and protection of the Jewish nation.
Put simply, Hitler was not - he despised them, and set up ways to exterminate them; Ken should have been more specific.
One of the most horrific episodes in human history - when commented on - needs concise and accurate points.
Yes Ken may have been right on an ancillary view - but totally wrong in the much bigger, relevant and important context...
Thought better see what Ken actually said.
www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/...arty-expulsion-video
I am trusting this video captures Ken Livinstone's full comments by which from the clip appears to be a well spoken snippet of history. Further comment about the enquiry like been in North Korea I think he said and no one was listening to him!
Would I vote Labour or Tory. All I can think is God (or someone) please help us. Ken seems great to me but as for the rest!!!
It is no wonder that a jury can be easily hookwinked.
As to Zionism then think Holocaust a very few german murderering Jews then read Joshus 6.21 in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible also a Zionist's reference book.
Then tell me what is different because I can not see it, as I picture both points of history in my mind.
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