How can our species allow situations like this to go on? Famines, disease, hatred, deaths - these are parts of humanity we claim to despise yet rarely do anything about. The mad genocides in Africa. The lunatic wars in Serbia and Bosnia. The holocaust. And, 50 years later, we see the UK specialist area - sex.

JK2006 wrote:
How can our species allow situations like this to go on? Famines, disease, hatred, deaths - these are parts of humanity we claim to despise yet rarely do anything about. The mad genocides in Africa. The lunatic wars in Serbia and Bosnia. The holocaust. And, 50 years later, we see the UK specialist area - sex.

If we let them all over the EU the situation will still be the same.

Do you really think so, Andrew?

JK2006 wrote:
Do you really think so, Andrew?

Yes of course it will and not every EU country will accept them.

Will these people vetted anyway JK ?Germany rape crime is increasing and Sweden have admitted it was a mistake to let refugees in as their crime is on the up also.

Why don't the people of Yemen etc form a vigilante group ?

How about JK, you open your doorand let these people in if you care about them.

I always wonder about that answer "then why don't you let them stay with you"? I don't want anyone staying with me, thank you very much, but I still feel a decent society should care for human beings in need and I think my tax monies could be better spent than in many of the ways they are wasted. You don't have to give everything to others to feel sympathy for them, do you?

JK2006 wrote:
I always wonder about that answer "then why don't you let them stay with you"? I don't want anyone staying with me, thank you very much, but I still feel a decent society should care for human beings in need and I think my tax monies could be better spent than in many of the ways they are wasted. You don't have to give everything to others to feel sympathy for them, do you?

Because it's not my problem JK...please don't say imagine it's you because it's not me.

No I'd never say "imagine it's you" and indeed it is not your problem. I consider it MY problem as a Member of the Human Race (although after Brexit UK citizens are hoping to be excluded from that species by opting out of the Human Rights Act). And, as such, I consider the problems of other humans to be my problem. Not enough to offer space in my home or to pay for them directly; possibly enough to give to worthy causes if I feel they do a good job; certainly enough to ask my Government to stop wasting my tax monies on pointless, stupid, wicked witch hunts and Inquiries and to spend it instead on enlarging the NHS so the truly needy can get help, build more schools, tighten up benefits for the truly needy and not the scroungers. Instead of spending millions arresting and trying to charge old men and women with doing things years ago that may never have happened; use the cash to save the lives of people drowning in the sea. Protect the homeless begging on the street. Stop knife crime and acid crime. Spend my tax monies (millions over the years) instead of wasting it on saving lives, helping the needy, mending the sick. But I'd never tell anyone else they should feel the same if they don't. What is right for me may not be right for you.

JK2006 wrote:
No I'd never say "imagine it's you" and indeed it is not your problem. I consider it MY problem as a Member of the Human Race (although after Brexit UK citizens are hoping to be excluded from that species by opting out of the Human Rights Act). And, as such, I consider the problems of other humans to be my problem. Not enough to offer space in my home or to pay for them directly; possibly enough to give to worthy causes if I feel they do a good job; certainly enough to ask my Government to stop wasting my tax monies on pointless, stupid, wicked witch hunts and Inquiries and to spend it instead on enlarging the NHS so the truly needy can get help, build more schools, tighten up benefits for the truly needy and not the scroungers. Instead of spending millions arresting and trying to charge old men and women with doing things years ago that may never have happened; use the cash to save the lives of people drowning in the sea. Protect the homeless begging on the street. Stop knife crime and acid crime. Spend my tax monies (millions over the years) instead of wasting it on saving lives, helping the needy, mending the sick. But I'd never tell anyone else they should feel the same if they don't. What is right for me may not be right for you.

Agree charity begins at home.

andrew wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
No I'd never say "imagine it's you" and indeed it is not your problem. I consider it MY problem as a Member of the Human Race (although after Brexit UK citizens are hoping to be excluded from that species by opting out of the Human Rights Act). And, as such, I consider the problems of other humans to be my problem. Not enough to offer space in my home or to pay for them directly; possibly enough to give to worthy causes if I feel they do a good job; certainly enough to ask my Government to stop wasting my tax monies on pointless, stupid, wicked witch hunts and Inquiries and to spend it instead on enlarging the NHS so the truly needy can get help, build more schools, tighten up benefits for the truly needy and not the scroungers. Instead of spending millions arresting and trying to charge old men and women with doing things years ago that may never have happened; use the cash to save the lives of people drowning in the sea. Protect the homeless begging on the street. Stop knife crime and acid crime. Spend my tax monies (millions over the years) instead of wasting it on saving lives, helping the needy, mending the sick. But I'd never tell anyone else they should feel the same if they don't. What is right for me may not be right for you.

Agree charity begins at home.



"Charity begins at home" is a bit too much like "I'm alright Jack" for me.

Yes and like all other Mayisms - sorry; cliches and truisms - it's actually silly. Like you cannot have your cake and eat it - why not? What else do you do with it? Charity should begin at home; continue to family and friends; move on to strangers and never end. Why must it be limited?

JK2006 wrote:
Yes and like all other Mayisms - sorry; cliches and truisms - it's actually silly. Like you cannot have your cake and eat it - why not? What else do you do with it? Charity should begin at home; continue to family and friends; move on to strangers and never end. Why must it be limited?

Only so much of the cake to go around. We keep giving to third world countries and they still not happy and are limbo. Perhaps we should give more money to blokes who are victims of domestic violence ?