holocaust21 wrote:
This is nothing to do with feminism. It is about people hurting children. It is, in my opinion, a nasty thing to say about a distressed and hurt family.
Well it's been a common theme in the British press to always bring out some family who are "distressed" and "something horrible has happened to their children" and for their to be a kind of political correctness of "don't insult the victim, don't question the victim, always believe the victim". But , which has consequences. The consequence here is largely due to the long history of this "believe the victim" narrative. Feminists peddling the "once abused, they will always suffer for life" line. This genuinely does cause mental illness in some people that causes them to exaggerate their situation and believe that it is more harmful to them than it was. I don't see how that is a positive thing? And we have the clear fundamental problem that the laws themselves are fucked. Both this copper and this woman might have been the nicest paedophiles in the world but we just don't know because they've been convicted under laws that are designed to get good people sent to prison. The family are hysterical because they believe it's some horrendous thing which is an idea they've been fed by the feminists, the feminist media are hysterical because they love to sell a good story. But who knows if it was "objectively" horrendous?
You say that they.... "always bring out some family who are "distressed" and "something horrible has happened to their children"
But something distressing and horrible HAS happened.
how else would you expect them to respond?
You say...."don't insult the victim, don't question the victim, always believe the victim".
Obviously the victims WERE believed.
Probably due to the abuse being filmed.
You say... "this kind of has the downside of everyone always believing whatever they are saying without questioning it".
I am equally appalled by accusers being automatically believed and the accused assumed to be guilty, but this is about two little toddlers who were attacked and filmed.
You talk about...."Feminists peddling the "once abused, they will always suffer for life" line".
I agree that this can be a self fulfilling prophecy, and is not helpful,
But there is no indication that the parents feel this way.
In fact, the opposite is suggested when they say "In time we hope to regain our trust in people, but for now our fears remain"
You say..."we have the clear fundamental problem that the laws themselves are fucked"
In this case, what do you think was wrong?
You say they..."might have been the nicest paedophiles in the world"
what do you mean by a nice paedophile? and how is it relevant?
You say..."they've been convicted under laws that are designed to get good people sent to prison"
How are the laws designed to put good people in jail?
The laws are set up so innocent people have to prove themselves, which is not right, but I dont understand what you mean by "good people" or what it has to do with this case?
As far as I can see, two people were prosecuted in a straightforward case, for physically abusing two and three year old toddlers, and distributing a film of it.
GOOD!