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#186966
Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
It all rather reflects the state of humanity. This from an article (Denise Bulger is furious about the documentary - says the men are clearly lying - Hollywood trained actors) ...
 
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hedda

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Good grief the day I take Nick Ferrari seriously is the day I'll ...fill in blanks..know far too much about him from younger days.

This really is a nonsensical ban.

MJ's music would hardly be pumped out endlessly..just be on playlists where a song may be played once every few months.

Probably have the opposite effect and make his millions of fans go out and buy CDs, downloads just to spite the radio stations.

Just a lot of nonsense,
 
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#187005
Green Man

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
hedda wrote:
Good grief the day I take Nick Ferrari seriously is the day I'll ...fill in blanks..know far too much about him from younger days.

This really is a nonsensical ban.

MJ's music would hardly be pumped out endlessly..just be on playlists where a song may be played once every few months.

Probably have the opposite effect and make his millions of fans go out and buy CDs, downloads just to spite the radio stations.

Just a lot of nonsense,


I was in a charity shop down in Londonderry the other day. Someone donated a huge stash of MJ CDs, then a fellow customer made an offer on the spot.
 
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Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
hedda wrote:
Good grief the day I take Nick Ferrari seriously is the day I'll ...fill in blanks..know far too much about him from younger days.

This really is a nonsensical ban.

MJ's music would hardly be pumped out endlessly..just be on playlists where a song may be played once every few months.

Probably have the opposite effect and make his millions of fans go out and buy CDs, downloads just to spite the radio stations.

Just a lot of nonsense,


Some people prone to hysteria take it all very seriously though.
At my exercise class this morning some fool started crying and making a fuss when "Billie Jean" came on.
Nobody took much notice.
 
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MCR

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Good post here from lewis17 @ HavenForum
fatherandy2.proboards.com/thread/95432/talk-michael

"I have avoided opening this thread for a few days but, unable to resist taking a quick peek, I have to say I’m not in the least bit surprised by all the ‘it’s on TV so it must be true’ negativity surrounding Finding Neverland.

Before you judge Michael, do your research: Facts don’t lie, people do.

Of course, if you want to view Michael Jackson as a paedophile, you will. It’s easy to do. But please, don’t blindly believe everything you see on TV or read in the media.

Fact: The FBI secretly investigated Michael Jackson for four years, tracking his whereabouts, his computers, phone calls, etc. and released a 300+ page file completely vindicating him, stating there was absolutely nothing to even remotely suggest he was an abuser … the general public and media completely ignored it. Yet two admitted liars and perjurers (one of which who even refers to himself as a ‘master of deception’) can come out with a completely one-sided, sensationalist story which contains literally no evidence whatsoever and is full of inconsistencies, and a large majority of the public doesn’t even question it.

Fact: The jurors who found Michael Jackson not guilty in his 2005 trial agree with the FBI. Juror Paulina Coccoz said: ‘It was pretty obvious there was no molestation done ... it was pretty obvious that there were ulterior motives on behalf of the family. And the mother, she orchestrated the whole thing ... there wasn’t a shred of evidence’. Just because a story is graphic and disturbing doesn’t make it factual.

Fact: Brett Barnes is threatening to sue HBO over Finding Neverland, in which Wade claims that he replaced Brett as an abused victim and confirmed that Brett was abused by Michael Jackson using his image and name. “Not only do we have to deal with these lies,” Brett stated, “but we’ve also got to deal with people perpetuating these lies. The fact that they fail to do the small amount of research it takes to prove these are lies, by choice or not, makes it even worse.” Brett testified at Michael Jackson’s criminal trial in 2005 — along with Macaulay Culkin — that he was never sexually abused by Michael and he hasn’t changed his account since. Brett also tweeted about the MJ allegations in January, calling them “lies.” Brett says he wants nothing to do with the film, does not give HBO his consent to use his image and likeness and wants all references to him axed … He also still insists that Michael Jackson is INNOCENT!

Fact: The Los Angeles Police Department stated that Michael Jackson should be presumed to be innocent. Yet despite a jury finding him not guilty on every single charge against him, despite the Los Angeles Department of Children and Family Services twice investigating and clearing him of wrongdoing, despite the FBI conducting a very thorough investigation in which no evidence of wrongdoing was found, and despite the cash grab lawsuits of his posthumous accusers being tossed out of court, the court of public opinion may sadly be what defines Michael’s legacy for many people."
 
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#187032
MCR

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Here's an open letter posted on Facebook a few days ago by a German family who knew MJ very well:
www.facebook.com/nik.tooke/p...56305157767276

“An Open Letter

From the Schleiter Family

Hi, we are Franziska, Anton, Marlies and Wolfgang – brother and sister and ourparents. We were close friends with Michael Jackson from childhood on. What weare about to say comes out of a place of great love and appreciation. If youwould like to quote this text, please do not take it out of context and alwayslink back to this page. We won‘t be giving any interviews to the press. Thankyou for understanding. This is all we have to say:

04.03.2019

Enough is Enough.

In 1995 we first met Michael at a German TV Show. That day, something that we could never have imagined in our wildest dreams happened. It was the start of a unique friendship. A friendship so normal yet so unusual and magical. One that would last until the very last day of Michael‘s life and will continue for ever in our hearts.

From the beginning we knew that what we were privileged to experience, was a treasure worth protecting. Especially regarding the world we live in, with media that wants to make up stories that sell, rather than seeking the truth and people who want to read shocking headlines rather than knowing the truth. Over the years we were offered over a quarter million of Euros for interviews, but no money in the world could ever materialize a value that would stand above the value of our memories with Michael. This is the reason why we have never spoken a word publicly about our friendship.

Something has changed our mind about speaking up lately. The utter shocking news of a new documentary that would portray Michael once again as a child molester. Even writing this sentence, putting his name and that word together, makes us feel sick to our stomach. Michael never behaved inappropriately towards us and we neither witnessed nor suspected him doing it to someone else ever.

We have been angry with the public treatment of Michael many times in the past, but we chose to stay silent - hoping the truth to run marathons and protecting Michael and his privacy.

And we had good reason to be angry, for example when Anton was falsely portrayed in a German tabloid as having a homosexual affair with Michael. We witnessed first hand how ugly the media can be and how they make up most terrible lies just to have a story. When our father denied to talk to an inquiring journalist on the phone, the story read something like "Father refuses to defend Michael". Unfortunately scandals sell much better than anything else.

Spending a lot of time with Michael, we experienced two-faced people more than once. When Michael was in the room, they acted most charming with seemingly good intentions, but once he turned his cheek they would become rude and you could sense that their intentions were not that good after all. In front of us, they didn‘t care showing their real face. We were only the shy German family in the background, not worth paying attention to. But we were observing and slowly but surely we started to get a glance at the often difficult world Michael was living in. It was a world in which it was so very difficult to trust.

And yet Michael was kind to everybody he would meet and believed in the good so strongly. Some would call it naiv, to us it was just one of his character traits that made us look up to him. Giving everybody a chance, even if you've been fooled by people over and over, really is remarkable. And it makes us even more sad to know, that many took and still take advantage of this.

Being around Michael made us realize that everybody wanted a piece of him. We often wondered why, from all people, he would let us into his circle of trusted friends. Now we understand it was maybe the fact that we didn't want anything from him and simply enjoyed being together. When he offered to pay for our education, our parents denied because it was too much of a gift. It was a no brainer for us then, but looking back on it now, it was probably something that Michael didn't experience often.

Those who wanted a piece of his fame or his money did not care about Michael as a person or about his kind heart and uplifting spirit. It is truly a shame and we almost feel bad for those people in a way, because blinded by money, they probably didn't realize that they just had the honor to meet a person that has a uniqueness about him that the world would only witness every other century. His music, his message, his creative and genius mind was truly one of a kind.

While our friendship with Michael was very normal in a sense that we hung out, chatted on the phone, went to the movies just like friends do, it was also magical in the sense that Michael had a warmth about him that was captivating. You would immediately feel comfortable and safe around him. He was one of the most humble persons we've ever met, always putting the well being of others over his own. There was never a single moment of doubt of his pure heart and intentions, which also led our parents to allow us to travel alone with Michael.

Though we‘re speaking up today, we still want to protect and respect our personal stories. What we can say though, is that each and every time we had to say good bye to Michael, we all cried because we knew how much we would miss him. The times we spent together were the most fun. And while Michael was always up for a good water balloon fight, he was also a great mentor, teaching us about life and sharing his incredible knowledge. We can remember how excited he was to tell us about the Wright brothers when he learnt that we had never heard of them. He gave us books and movies of stories we could learn from and he was eager for us to develop our talents.

We understand that our story can only put a small piece of the puzzle together for those who are still in doubt of what to believe about Michael Jackson. To those who still doubt that he was innocent, we can only plea to simply do your own research. And if the fact that Michael had to endure every possible raid of privacy in his trial in 2005 and still was found NOT GUILTY on ALL CHARGES, if this fact is still not enough for you, then maybe you can simply listen to his music.

Meeting many of his fans over the years, we were astounded how much they “got him“ as a person, even though they never personally met him. Michael and his fans had a unique friendship of their own. He trusted them and it is no wonder why they continue to trust in his good heart. They simply listened to his music and to his words. If you listen closely you‘d know all of his stories and you‘d know what kind of person he was. You would know that his mission for his time on earth was not only to bring happiness in form of melodies and rhythm but also to change the world to the better.

Boy, how he could inspire us to be our best selves and to show more love and respect to each other! Yet people choose to blow up lies that threaten to overshadow all of the greatness this man has brought.

Enough is enough.

Today we speak up for Michael because he deserves better and because he was the best friend we could have ever imagined.

Anton and Franziska and our parents Marlies and Wolfgang”
 
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MCR

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Grace Rwaramba, his nanny for many years, has also felt compelled to release a statement in Michael's defence:
abcnews.go.com/US/michael-jacksons-nanny...os/story?id=61531201

“If Michael harmed Wade Robson and James Safechuck, they have my deepest sympathy and compassion. I don’t claim to know what happened between Michael and his accusers. I wasn’t there.

“However, because Michael is no longer here to defend himself, and because I have a unique view of him and the life he lived, I feel compelled to speak out against what I firmly believe to be false claims. The person that Wade and James describe is not the person that I knew.

“He was trusting to the point of extreme naivete; always assuming the best intentions in everyone. While he was far from perfect, in my over twelve years of living with Michael, knowing him and his lifestyle intimately, I never saw or experienced anything that led me to suspect that he was capable of child sexual abuse.

“I was at Neverland when many of the family friends would come and go. At any given time, anywhere between 60 to 100 employees worked in security, maintenance, housekeeping, grounds, the kitchen, and many other roles. Maintaining the ranch in such immaculate shape took an entire army of workers that were always around.

“I know Wade Robson and his family well. I first met Joy Robson back in the early 90s, when I was at MJJ Productions. In late 1994, I attended the release party of Wade’s first album in California. I distinctly recall Joy running that event as though her life depended on it. After that release party, I didn’t see the Robsons again until early 1997, when Wade joined several other families at Neverland after Prince was born.

“Over the years, I got to know the Robsons well as they visited the ranch on many different occasions. Neverland was an enchanting place where the butlers, cooks, maids, zookeepers, gardeners and other staff made every guest feel like royalty, and everyone person who was fortunate to visit loved it!

“The one thing that was consistent about the Robsons over the years was Joy's steely resolve to turn Wade into a star. When all the other kids, often including Michael, were off having water balloon fights or watching a movie in the theater, Joy would be drilling Wade on a dance move and every so often wave Michael over for some tips.

“On one such occasion, Michael sat next to me as I was watching Prince and we watched Wade practice under Joy’s focused inspection. He said to me, “she reminds me of Joseph,” referring to his father’s obsession with perfection. Unbeknownst to Joy, that was her nickname. Michael had a nickname for everyone. This was the only time I ever heard him compare anyone to his father. Also, despite his complicated past with Joseph, he meant this observation as a compliment.

“The Robsons’ ambition and self-interest knew no bounds. Several months before Michael was acquitted on all charges on June 13, 2005, he came home from court and informed me that I should expect a call from Wade. When Wade called the ranch, security patched the call through to Paris’s room where Michael and I spent most of our time preparing for the next day.

"I put him on speaker phone. He informed me that Michael had advised him to contact me about whether he and his finance, Amanda, could have their wedding at Neverland in the fall. I was utterly shocked by how insensitive the request was; Michael was sitting next to me.

"’You know Grace, Neverland is so special to my family and me,’ Wade continued, “Michael has been like a father to me, and it would mean the world to us if Amanda and I could get married at Neverland.’ I told Wade, this is not a good time, reminding him that Michael was in the middle of the fight for his life.

“A few days later, I was in Santa Barbara running errands when Joy called with the same request. I had previously helped Wade gain permission to film a music video at Neverland, which was a big favor considering the strict no cameras policy. I remember responding with a stern ‘do you seriously expect me to ask Michael, right now -- during the trial -- if you can use the ranch for Wade’s wedding?’

"After a moment of awkward tension, she conceded and dropped off the phone. Why would someone who alleges to have been assaulted for over seven years want to have one of the most sacred events in his life on the same property where the attacks allegedly took place?

“What I can't understand is why Wade would continue to voluntarily and consistently return, and bring friends and loved ones, to a place that is the site of the alleged attacks well into his adult life?

“For twelve years, from 1997 to 2009, I was part of Michael’s family … I spent more time with Michael in the last twelve years of his life than anyone except his children."
 
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MCR

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
Another great social media post

www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=22958975...567669108&type=3

I have just seen this it was posted last night so I had to paste and copied it to get this out there more Read this...... two sides to every story 👍

This was a tweet from music executive Clyde Jenkins. This is just some of the stuff this one sided documentary conveniently left out. Anyone can make a documentary and make it look like it’s the whole truth. It’s not.

Tweet👇🏻
Wade Robson... you should be ashamed of yourself!!! You and your family befriended the biggest star in the world. I personally recall your mom Joy calling MJJ Music with a sob story about needing money knowing that Michael Jackson loved her and your entire family and would do anything to help her. Michael especially loved you like a son because you dreamed of being a dancer as your mother took you around Australia impersonating who.... Michael Jackson.

Your family moved to the United States leaving your father behind and Michael gave you a record deal as part of a rap duo named QUO! It FAILED!!!

Michael Set you up with his niece Brandi and you guys were together for several years... until you CHEATED with other woman several Times.... she left you!

You still remained in the Jackson Circle.... Why? Because it opened doors for you being associated with Michael Jackson and his family.

That association with Michael Jackson afforded you the opportunity to befriend such artist as Justin Timberlake and Brittany spears... and what did you do...You started working with Justin as a Choreographer and then slept with his girlfriend Brittany Spears and was FIRED. Justin then wrote a song about it called "Cry Me A River". And yet you called Justin your FRIEND!!!

You used your association with Michael Jackson to befriend PRINCE and Mayte.... and what did you do.... You slept with HER!!! Some friend you are!!

You use your association with Michael Jackson to get yourself a gig on a television dance show.... word gets out about your previous disregard and loyalty toward high profile celebrities... and what happens.... you get CUT from that show.

Michael Jackson plans his THIS IS IT concert and you BEG to be the choreographer for the show.... Michael Chooses another Choreographer.... what do you do now that your web of lies are catching up with you and you are now Hollywood damaged goods.... You turn on the one man who looked out for you and your family your ENTIRE life and make up child abuse/molestation allegations that you have emphatically stated for many many years....NEVER HAPPENED!!

Fast forward to today... Michael Jackson is sadly NO LONGER with us. You now beg Michaels Nephew Taj Jackson for VIP access to Michael Jacksons funeral for YOU and your entire family. yet you claim this monster molested you...Sick.

You are now considered a home wrecking, disloyal individual and is essentially blackballed from Hollywood. What do you do? Because You know the world knows you are associated with Michael Jackson.... you use that association once again to change your LIFE LONG STORY to now claim... Michael Jackson molested you. Why? because you are BROKE and your wife is demanding you start making money or she will leave you.

You now convince another broke kid from Michaels past (Pepsi commercial) to join you in a frivolous lawsuit against Michael Jacksons Estate for 100's of Millions of dollars. The courts agree that there is no merit to this lawsuit and dismiss it!!

The Jackson family never fight back when people say disparaging things about their family. Mrs. Jackson once told me when i questioned her about this... she replied "because DIRT sinks and CREAM rises"

Wade knows this to be true as well.... so what does he do? He and James Safechuck concoct a story so salacious, so scandalous so despicable, and presents it to HBO for a one sided EXPLOSIVE televised documentary of LIES... in hopes that the Michael Jackson BILLION DOLLAR ESTATE will settle with you financially to make this documentary go away.

Well that documentary of LIES will air this weekend.... and unlike the Jackson's past... this new generations of Jackson kids are not having it!! they are suing HBO for airing your lying ass!!

I hope when this is all said and done, the estate counter sues YOU in civil court and WIN! I hope it renders you penniless for the rest of your life. Michael Jackson was good to YOU, your mother Joy and your sister Chantel.... and because your gravy train has run out... THIS is how you repay him. You are a sad excuse for a human being!!!

Sorry for this long post... but knowing what i know I just couldn't be silent.

For any of you who thought Michael Jackson was strange... I get it... because there is no one else on earth to compare him to. Yes, there are other child stars who grew up to "blend in" to society...and i get it... But when you are Michael Jackson and the only thing on earth that is more recognizable than you is the yellow "M" at McDonalds..... that in itself is "Strange!"

Anyways.... i say... boycott the documentary... and if you MUST WATCH... know that you now know the basis of the scandalous lies contained within the documentary!

Let that man rest in PEACE!!!

Clyde
 
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hedda

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
Amazing stuff MCR and thanks for posting it.

I've seen the most ludicrous tales posted by supposedly sensible publications including ones that think Jackomn's estate will be sued for $Billions, ruined and so on.

It just isn't going to happen for obvious legal reasons..

However I Predict: Jackson is one of the very rarest of celebrities in that his fans truly are rusted on for life and no matter what.

I can't think of anyone else except for Elvis Presley who commands the intensity of such fan worship. Can you?

I reckon Jackson's music will be re-packaged time and time again..just as Elvis Presley's is and those millions of Jackson's fans will buy every single bit of it.

I reckon the intensity of the anti-Jackson campaign will make those fans deliberately go out and buy his music and memorability.

I reckon Jackson's estate may even boom because of this "scandal" (hey..no such thing as bad publicity) because Jackson's fans are fans for life. He, like Elvis are in a whole different stratosphere when it comes to fandom.

Part of the thrashing about of the tabloid media (and even "respected" media) is that cannot get it through their heads...as if a frigging radio station in Canada or Australia, the USA & UK has any influence of Jackson's music one way or the other.

And here is The Big Point ignored by the entire Western World and it's racist: Michael Jackson has millions upon millions of fans right throughout Asia, Philippines, Thailand , India etc etc and they do not give a flying f*ck about sex scandals and these sensations for them , last about one single day. They are simply not obsessed with this stuff as the West is.
 
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#187064
Green Man

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
hedda wrote:
Amazing stuff MCR and thanks for posting it.

I've seen the most ludicrous tales posted by supposedly sensible publications including ones that think Jackomn's estate will be sued for $Billions, ruined and so on.

It just isn't going to happen for obvious legal reasons..

However I Predict: Jackson is one of the very rarest of celebrities in that his fans truly are rusted on for life and no matter what.

I can't think of anyone else except for Elvis Presley who commands the intensity of such fan worship. Can you?

I reckon Jackson's music will be re-packaged time and time again..just as Elvis Presley's is and those millions of Jackson's fans will buy every single bit of it.

I reckon the intensity of the anti-Jackson campaign will make those fans deliberately go out and buy his music and memorability.

I reckon Jackson's estate may even boom because of this "scandal" (hey..no such thing as bad publicity) because Jackson's fans are fans for life. He, like Elvis are in a whole different stratosphere when it comes to fandom.

Part of the thrashing about of the tabloid media (and even "respected" media) is that cannot get it through their heads...as if a frigging radio station in Canada or Australia, the USA & UK has any influence of Jackson's music one way or the other.

And here is The Big Point ignored by the entire Western World and it's racist: Michael Jackson has millions upon millions of fans right throughout Asia, Philippines, Thailand , India etc etc and they do not give a flying f*ck about sex scandals and these sensations for them , last about one single day. They are simply not obsessed with this stuff as the West is.



Give it time iTunes will have exclusives and a bumper box set to released soon.

Gary Glitter still sells on eBay.
 
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#187076
Chris

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
I went out for a few drinks last night, and MJ/J5 music was on in every bar (alongside other tunes).. in one bar they played "P.Y.T." and that was followed by "Happy People" by R.Kelly
 
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Jo

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
These are interesting posts, MCR. Thanks for posting.

Haven't had a chance to watch this yet, but others might be interested: Oprah devoting an hour to interviewing the two accusers and the Leaving Neverland director.

 
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MCR

Re:Michael Jackson music NOT BANNED by BBC 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
Just been confirmed by someone on Facebook..Michael Jackson has NOT been banned from
BBC4's TOTP repeats
 
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#187953
hedda

Re:Michael Jackson music BANNED by BBC 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
Jo wrote:
"He’s considered by many to be one of the greatest entertainers of all time, but now fresh child abuse allegations threaten to destroy Michael Jackson’s legacy. Broadcaster Nick Ferrari says he can no longer listen to Michael Jackson’s songs since seeing the documentary, whereas superfan Danny Oliver has joined many supporters in rejecting the claims. Both join us on the sofa, and we’re live with DJ Mike Read in his radio studio as he tells us why he’ll always continue to play the King of Pop’s music."
Nick Ferrari: twitter.com/NickFerrariLBC (includes a recent interview on LBC with Michael Jackson's nephew)
Danny Oliver: twitter.com/DannyMJOliver



Nick Ferrari used to be such a nice young man when he was on the NoTW.
Was quite good looking too.
Hideous old right wing bag now.
The opposite to moi.
 
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