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TOPIC: Carl Beech
#189064
Carl Beech 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
His trial begins today and it is incredibly important. It confuses media like The Guardian whose agenda is that "you must be believed" and hates stories (like Jemma Beale) which illustrate how common lies, inventions and exaggerations are. How will they cover this trial? See below.
Then there is the far worse situation where bent police and corrupt lawyers encourage and assist liars in order to boost their budgets and conviction rates and get promotion.
There may well have been some of this in the Carl Beech case.
There is the position of the media in it - showing how keen they are to smear, cover, damage innocent men and women in order to get "a good story".
There are the public who, the vast majority, find it impossible to accept that people make false allegations - they do, far more than there is genuine abuse.
This case will open their eyes.
If Beech is found guilty, I do hope police, media and lawyers are not let off.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/14/...when-story-collapsed
 
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Last Edit: 2019/05/14 15:36 By JK2006.
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'M'

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
The Investigator has yet to comment on his social media
 
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'M'

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
So will Harvey Proctor be called to give evidence at this trial or family members of the falsely accused I wonder
 
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#189069
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months, 1 Week ago  
It's interesting in that the fantasies of "Nick" are no more false than those against me in 2000 (or in 2018). So the question is - why didn't Surrey Police investigate those false allegations in my case? Answer - because police are told to believe and assist false accusers. Anyone remember "credible and true"? Those cops should be in the dock along with Carl Beech. Encouraging, assisting and provoking false allegations are just as serious as making them. Poor Nick was so barmy and extreme that his claims were easily disproved. It is less easy but even more evil when false claims of abuse are made by step daughters or sons or fans of DJ's or foster children or failed sports loonies now driving taxis or pretending to be police officers.
 
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Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Thousands of visits to this thread. Carl Beech is clearly of great interest to many.
 
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#189081
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
A kind new poster has added this link which does, indeed, give excellent coverage from Jordan Milne of Sky News. Thoroughly recommended. Incredible evidence of Carl Beech's love of swimming (as opposed to his stories to police about fear of water) and even the "penknife" that Carl said was Harvey Proctor's (one of the more ludicrous fantasies, it is alleged).

twitter.com/JEMilneSky
 
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Jo

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
A kind new poster has added this link which does, indeed, give excellent coverage from Jordan Milne of Sky News. Thoroughly recommended. Incredible evidence of Carl Beech's love of swimming (as opposed to his stories to police about fear of water) and even the "penknife" that Carl said was Harvey Proctor's (one of the more ludicrous fantasies, it is alleged).

twitter.com/JEMilneSky

Fascinating. I keep dipping into it. I see that a certain person who makes a lot of noise about being an abuse survivor is occasionally making condemnatory tweets in reply, which I find ironic, as I'm quite sceptical of him.
 
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#189093
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
The minute by minute coverage is absolutely fascinating; I wonder what Carl Beech's defence will be?
 
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#189094
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Extraordinary developments; Beech turns out (no surprise) to have been a manipulative paedophile himself "hiding in plain sight". This happens so often; one of my recent false accusers turned out to have raped his 10 year old sister when he was 20. In prison those who shouted NONCE were found to be in jail for those very same offences. Vigilantes often turn out to be child abusers. Quite frequently you'll find those loud "investigators" shouting about "bent DJ's" may have some very unpleasant skeletons in their own closets. This trial will be a game changer.
 
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Piers Moron

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
To lie about being sexually abused for attention is repulsive.
Exagerating ACTUAL sexual abuse by adding nonsense like satanic ritual and snuff movie cameras is even more disgusting.

I wonder if there are Youtubers who have done cancer video diaries with diliberate off camera head shaving for attention while all along being perfectly healthy? It would not suprise me.

Youtube especially is full of clowns claiming they were mind controlled by freemasons,celebrities,royalty,aliens etc and made to carry out satanic murders and drink blood etc....

Cos.....child sexual abuse is not traumatic enough...it MUST be exagerated for the views and thumbs up button....
 
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#189100
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
35,000 have read this thread today.
 
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#189107
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Interesting that BBCNews avoids mentioning Jimmy Savile amongst the Carl Beech victims. Why? Answer; because it casts doubt on Savile's guilt in other cases of false allegations. Which makes the BBC & all media look stupid. Don't worry media; we all know you're stupid anyway! Have you seen the FABULOUS new clothes the Emperor is wearing?
 
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#189108
Amanda

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
My stress levels are at an all time high - I’m preparing for the worst - all innocent except SJS - and hoping for the best - an inquiry into the false accusers, Police and Lawyers who enabled Savilisation.
 
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Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Don't be stressed Amanda - this is brilliant for Jimmy; clear evidence that he was falsely accused, like the others, and this must surely cause many to sit up and wonder about all those others (like the nice lady raped in an NHS car park).
 
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#189114
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Yes read and weep and know for certain; Carl Beech's false claims are no more invented or exaggerated than those made against me 20 years ago (when I could not prove my innocence) and in 2018 (when I could and showed how Surrey Police had provoked and assisted false accusers).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7000707...litical-figures.html
 
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Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Spot the links
 
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Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
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Anon

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
Very interesting story in Daily Mail, of Beech:

'He was indebted and living grossly beyond his means, intending to make money on the international speaking circuit, speaking about his 'abuse''

The prosecution are trying to say that wanting to be a 'celebrity victim' is a motive for lying about abuse. I wonder if defence lawyers will use this line to defend those accused of abuse in the future.

Also the allegations about lying about being abused by Savile are interesting. If you read the enquiry report into Savile at Stoke Mandeville it says that virtually all the allegations must be believed as it is very rare for anyone to lie about abuse. But there was no documentation to prove that the accusers had even been admitted to the hospital. All they needed was a letter from a doctor saying they had reported feeling traumatised due to historic sex abuse. If Beech is found guilty, where does this leave the stories about Savile carrying out abuse on an 'industrial scale' to use the horrible media phrase?

Believe, me being abused is truly horrible but then so is living in a world where due process and the rule of law have been swept aside by hysteria. It's impossible to believe we are living through such times.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7035899...gures-interview.html
 
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#189149
Sheba Bear

Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
For those unaware, a report in the Evening Standard states in so many words that he is the son of a vicar.

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/carl-beech...savile-a4144211.html

The 51-year-old, from Gloucester, told Detective Constable Mark Lewis his stepfather, the late Major Ray Beech, started beating him soon after he and his mother, the Rev Charmian Beech, moved into the officer's accommodation on an Army base.
 
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#189151
Re:Carl Beech 2 Months ago  
An interesting titbit Sheba (do vicars have tits?) - thanks for spotting it.
 
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