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TOPIC: Sally Challen
#190143
Sally Challen 2 Weeks, 5 Days ago  
The interesting part of this, to me, is that, after the decision to recommend seizing the mobiles and computers of accusers in sex cases, are we seeing the CPS starting to see common sense? Max Hill, the new CPS boss who took over from the ghastly boot faced Alison Saunders, may be sorting out the CPS problems.
 
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#190182
Re:Sally Challen 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
I cant imagine a man beating his wife to death with a hammer ever going free, no matter what the provocation was.
 
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#190187
Randall

Re:Sally Challen 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
Errr, yes I'm inclined to agree with Honey here.

From this article edition-m.cnn.com/2019/06/07/europe/uk-s...%2Fduckduckgo.com%2F

Challen said her husband bullied, humiliated and repeatedly cheated on her, forbidding her from socializing without him. He also controlled the couple's finances.

On August 14, 2010, Challen killed him with a hammer


The propaganda being touted is that she was being abused by something called "coercive control."

The behaviour she alleges is justification for divorce or maybe even a slap round the chops. But battering her husband to death with a hammer??? We definitely shouldn't be making someone being a bit nasty to you a defence to murdering them. As Honey rightly pointed out, a man wouldn't get away with bludgeoning his wife to death because he was henpecked.

From a legal point of view, I'm not sure how a psychiatric opinion of her mental state 10 years ago can be a) relevant new evidence for an appeal and b) justification for overturning the murder conviction. Looks like more ideological tainting of the criminal law to me.
 
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#190189
Re:Sally Challen 2 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
And this was before coercive control was a crime, so it is judging yesterday's morals by current standards. Again.
 
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#190204
Jo

Re:Sally Challen 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
I don't think the fact that domestic abuse against men is probably not yet taken as seriously as domestic abuse against women necessarily means that women are treated with special lenience by the justice system if they're considered to have committed manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility rather than murder when, after years of being worn down mentally by incessant abuse, they act out of character and take drastic action to stop it once and for all.

While hailing the verdict as a “watershed”, David writes: “How has our mother’s case come to be so inaccurately portrayed by the criminal justice system? Why do we continue to label women who kill as jealous, cold murderers and refuse to explore evidence of abuse?”

He explains that his mother was only 15 when she met their father, who was 21. “At first he was charming, but gradually the abuse began,” David writes.

“He bullied and humiliated her, isolated her from her friends and family, controlled who she could socialise with, controlled her money, restricted her movement and created a culture of fear and dependency.

“Our father fed into our mother’s mind the abuse she was suffering over 40 years was normal.”

But this behaviour was not examined during the original trial, meaning, David writes, that for “almost a decade my brother James and I have been forced to accept a false narrative of our father’s death that depicted our mother as a controlling and jealous lover who planned to kill our father”.

Justice system smeared our mother, say Sally Challen’s sons

My mother, Sally Challen, was branded a cold-blooded killer. At last, she has justice

Thanks for the advice. Fully aware who died, don’t need reminding on that one. Don’t mean to be rude but I can and will bang on about it because I get messages from young people witnessing DV from parents and this will happen again. I’d have appreciated someone helping me.
twitter.com/David_Challen/status/1137497504914857984?p=v

Your lack of research is shocking. She did try leave him, repeatedly, she then did leave and then my father manipulated her further seeing how weak she was alone.
twitter.com/David_Challen/status/1137351173382561792?p=v
 
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#190207
Re:Sally Challen 2 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
My feelings are not that Challen was treated correctly and has now escaped true justice but that the thousands of others currently in prison should have had mitigating circumstances taken into account and less extreme sentences given. My hope is that her case will change the circumstances for hundreds of others - men AND women.
 
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Randall

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#190303
Bookworm

Re:Sally Challen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
Ever since the old boy who killed the burglar threatening him and his disabled wife safety, anything goes when it comes to self defence.

I am thinking of those in jail for killing somebody through fights which got out of hand.
 
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