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As a society 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Re:As a society 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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Ryan Fisher, 29, stood trial... accused of having sex with the girl, then aged 14
The ex-pupil, now 20...
So it was six years ago, making him 23 at the time.
A man that age having sex with a willing, post pubescent 14 year old girl is totally natural. Perhaps not even uncommon.
The sex ended in February 2015, when she was 15 and had a boyfriend.
In April 2016 her mother unlocked her mobile phone, saw the messages and the relationship 'completely stopped'.
'She confronted me in my room and I told her everything that had been going on up to that point,' the witness said.
So the complainant victim survivor had been perfectly content with the arrangement and had remained on good terms with the man... until she was put in a position of embarrassment. Whereupon she plays the poor little abused schoolgirl card to save her honour, and gets some compensation money to help ease her conscience, too.
No one's suffered any tangible harm or loss here. It's just not a crime according to any reasonable and rational definition of the word. At the very most this should be a professional discipline matter, because there are additional ethical requirements for a student-teacher relationship. Using the criminal law in such a situation is grossly disproportionate.
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Re:As a society 4 Years, 9 Months ago
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"Fisher denied all charges...."
"The sex ended in February 2015, when she was 15 and had a boyfriend.
In April 2016 her mother unlocked her mobile phone..., "
Did these mobile phone messages actually exist and were verified as been texted at the time stated....
I know nasty, evil criminals like "false accusers" , CPS , police, expert witnesses , family members and the likes of that tragic case of the young man raping and murdering the young girl and yet when he testified sounded so believable. So many can sound soooo credible. Many even believe their own lies.
So "Fisher denied all charges...." could be because the evidence was manufactured and then many messages. times and comments stated as fact and never verified or ALL (most) could the absolute truth and Fisher just denied the charges.
As to crime / no crime or how it is dealt with if factual is a huge issue and opinions I guess are quite varied.
At this stage the denial, dated evidence, known it's common practice and more so at the time for police not to exam obvious evidence e.g. retrieve and copy them. That phone messages get deleted etc. And defense lawyers are to varying degrees incompetent and do not challenge the evidence or also to varying decrees court rules and personnel are able to block the truth and evidence.
I read the story wondered about the denial and tool the quoted text messages as fact, verified evidence. Why would it be quoted if it did not exist thinking. But on rethinking I am curious??? Like most of these things I will never really know!!!!
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