Saunders was on the Derbyshire show again saying how rare False Allegations are. He was, himself, abused when young and was believed. But he should imagine - if he had been himself falsely accused of a serious sex offence - how much damage could have been caused to his life. He is, I believe, contributing to the CSI. I'm sure he was involved in the Catholic Church investigating sex abuse. Sitting next to the wonderful Sister Frances Dominica, he opposed suffocating publicity for the victims of the False Allegations Industry. I would ask him, please, to reconsider his constant claims that false claims are rare. Karma can be very potent. He is asking for trouble; someone hearing him say how this almost never happens may be inspired to make false claims against him. I believe, from personal experience, that they are the majority, not a small minority. I'm pleased, for him, he has never been falsely accused of abusing a child or raping someone in a pub toilet or exposing himself or any of the other constant claims that are made to the Met and local forces like Surrey - or Manchester or South Yorkshire or Wiltshire or Wales (it happens everywhere; it really does). As a minor media celebrity I'm astonished he's escaped such claims. He can say it is rare because it has never happened to him. If it had he would know it is just as common - if not, I believe, even more common - than genuine child abuse.

Except JK, Saunders is being very, very disingenuous and liberal with the truth. He has balls though, I'll give him that.

In 2013, NAPAC were promoting various documentary makers on the NAPAC website web.archive.org/web/20131231122907/http:...c.org.uk/Appeals.asp

Pay particular attention to the one for September 2013 and "Title Role" productions.
Title Role productions created a documentary entitled "Crimes That Shook Britain - Jimmy Savile". In which Peter Saunders of NAPAC appeared and NAPAC were given a very prominent promotion at the end of the programme.

Also within the programme and as a result of the appeal on the NAPAC website was a certain "Abuse Victim" [their description] called "Stephen".

"Stephen" was none other than... Carl Beech.

Carl Beech whose facilitation to Title Role came through that advert on the NAPAC website. Without that advert, Beech would not likely have gotten into his first public appearance. Without that public appearance it's possible that he wouldn't have had the balls to carry on with his bovine excrement.

So when Peter Saunders appears on programmes about false allegations, just remember that he was party [as NAPAC's chief executive and documentary participant] to the promotion of Carl Beech's false allegations.

but isn't Saunders one who says he was abused but there wasn't actually a court case for him to cite?

He was asked to leave The Pope's Commission on child abuse within the Catholic Church after allegedly hectoring the others on the committee.

There are so many who have leapt onboard the child abuse campaigns..a bandwagon trundling along were minimum proof and just claims alone have been given extraordinary encouragement.

The one thing I agree with Boris Johnson (but only one ) is the IICSA etc are ludicrous wastes of money that could be spent on real live kids today.

## taken me ages to work out who Johnson is : he's the Sir Les Patterson of British politics

Nice one Hedda but Les is far funnier. I do suspect Peter Saunders is due a thorough investigation; ditto Peter Wanless of the NSPCC - many of these charity people, like Saint Bob, warrant closer examination. Jimmy Savile who contributed far more to worthy charities than all these others added together, at least got spared until death.

Yes Hedda you are correct re Catholic Church and Saunders.

Which brings me onto another common denominator with these false allegations bunch: they all seem to have deep religious beliefs of some kind. Mostly Christian fundamentalists.

At the risk of incurring JK's wrath, Mike Hames [ex head of Obscene Publications Squad at the Met] wrote a book in 2000 entitled "The Dirty Squad". Chapter 12 details the handling of ritual abuse allegations. However Hames made some other and perhaps really pertinent observations in terms of wider allegations:

The Cult of Belief

being the pertinent screengrab.

Moor Larkin has shown that Saunders has a morphing abuse story.

jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/2013/06/th...tence-of-memory.html

Suggest readers of this thread (26,844 so far) now try the Enablers thread.

Thanks for this, Stephen. Just found your site

And please also read The Enablers Part Two thread which looks at Charities. Carl Beech and his close association with the NSPCC and NAPAC and others may bring an unfortunate (for them) spotlight on charities.