So where did this all start? This is simply my theory.
It goes back to Surrey Police and Max Clifford.

I don’t know who originated the idea but Max, having realised there was money to be made from footballers and possible sexual encounters, knew that the bigger money could be gained from bigger celebrities.

He and his local police force tried this with Mick Hucknall and Paul Weller - two huge pop stars who lived in the area. But both had expensive lawyers and loadsa money.

Google RAPE and those two names if you don’t believe me. I trust both men don’t mind me mentioning them, all these years later.

So both sets of False Allegations went nowhere. So Max decided he needed to get a gay or bisexual star, less well funded but a big name.

Apart from anything else, Europe was about to force the UK to equalise the ages of consent at 16 (incredibly, up until then, men were considered unable to consent until they reached 18 whereas women could do so at 16). And Tony Blair’s Labour party, in thrall to the tabloids, hated this.

At just this time Jonathan King was asked to take over EMI Records as Global Chairman. This involved firing some very major (but failing) music executives. Some of whom knew Max well and resented the King appointment. And also at this time Max was approached by someone desperate for money with a tale of sexual encounters at the Walton Hop, a neighbourhood disco.

Max sent him away with a flea in his ear and told him he needed a big name to make his story commercially viable; so Kirk McIntyre came up with Jonathan King, a man he’d never met but who, he knew, was a friend to several local gays.

Many of whom Kirk, as a gay rent boy, had serviced in his youth.

Faced with a big name star, Max said “this is good; but go to the National Police squad to look credible and unconnected; they will refer it back to Surrey Police”. Kirk obeyed.

When, as expected, it was referred to Surrey Police, a junior officer, Mark Williams Thomas, was sent up to Shropshire to interview the false accuser.

This we only found out in 2018 (or I’d never have been convicted in 2001). Mark Williams Thomas arrived, sent his sidekick away and spent 11 hours alone with McIntyre and his wife, compiling a list of future “victims” which included Jimmy Savile, Cliff Richard and others (some of whom, including big football names, I’d never believe but I’ve seen the handwritten list) and their rumoured tastes. He then went home, keeping all Kirk’s “exhibits” there for a month before he submitted them back to his Exhibits Officer.

And soon after left the force.

When, in 2018, I pointed this all out to my QC and his Junior, they shot through the roof. Dynamite. Concealed (I believe deliberately) for 18 years.

MWT went on, after leaving Surrey Police under a cloud, never sufficiently explained, and a stint cleaning chewing gum off pavements (something Anna Raccoon discovered and gleefully named him Gumshoe) to expose Jimmy Savile and prompt Carl Beech into greater further fantasies, all provoked by Mark Williams Thomas.

So there you go. It stinks.

The False Allegations Industry from baby to screaming adult Beech; a story of this century.

The CCRC and Surrey Police are busily investigating.

Mark; I suggest you leave the country and, if possible, go and live in South Africa.

To be blunt, I cant imagine Mark Williams Thomas orchestrating it all, because he seems a bit thick.

Thick yes but cunning.

extraordinary timeline and I'll say for once.."joining the dots" is real and there appears on the surface, a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

I find it scary that there are so many people in this current witch hunt- for that is what it is, who won't give a stuff about other's lives and will quite happily send them to jail for cash.

You draw on one aspect that depresses me..as an old Socialist. The Left of politics in Britain simply cannot bring itself to even mention what has gone on over the years or happily promotes it: the rotten Tom Watson (now a "victim" of 'Nick' who "must be believed") Danzuck, John Mann and the others in the party whose silence is co-operation.

They are part of a clique who actively used child abuse to try and demolish old Tories like Lord Brittan and Ted Heath purely for political gain and if innocents got caught in the crossfire then, bad luck.

And various police forces where there has been a culture for decades of trying to bring down "establishment" figures (a title is a bonus) pop stars..anyone famous.

# I hear on the grapevine the backer of "Exaro" is very nervous in case the whole shebang comes back to haunt him..financially.
Those like Harvey Proctor (a hero in my eyes) surely have a case to sue those at Exaro..and their backers..who encouraged "Nick" and the others.

## The Truth always outs in the end: currently in Victoria where it's taken decades to clean up bent cops, a number of cases are being reviewed after it was revealed that a favourite defense solicitor for a raft of criminals in Melbourne was in fact a police "grass"..with yesterday one person having their murder conviction over-turned.

There is a mentality here which is so apparent in various British police forces..a culture of stitching up innocent people with the belief the cops can get away with it..and indeed they did after so many innocent Irishman were falsely convicted as IRA bombers while lying cops escaped all sanction.

But the "pedo witch hunt" is unique in that..often there hasn't even been a crime.

### There needs to be a Royal Commission or Inquiry into British policing..forget the ridiculous IILSCA (one thing Boris got right)..for crying out loud..protecting children isn't rocket science..spend the £100Ms on real live children today.

Just for the record Mark explains the 'small' part he played

Full tweet
mobile.twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1153727244566761472

Admission here

Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
·
24 Jul
"Far from it - his criticism was entirely with the police and BBC . He supported the fact any allegation needed to be investigated. I simply passed the complainant to the police & had no further involvement. Hence whey he had no issues with me . Have a good day"

"Have a good day" = f..k off you c..the you ain't got nothing on me.

Now I'm sure the truth was
If the Sir Cliff thing had ended in conviction said hand holder would had plenty of opportunities to be on front of camera making his wild statements he was the instigator of Cliffs imprisonment.

Mark Sly-Fox-Thomas
Do not worry it's always MWTs intentions it ends up in financial gain.

That's a great post from our dear host. It's a crystal clear illustration of the scam aspect of sex crime witch hunt. But there's more to it than opportunism for personal gain.

As you, JK, have pointed out before, lingering homophobia has found an outlet in paedo-fakery. Hunting for poofs and queer bashing has gone out of fashion but hey, if we just change the epithet from bender to peado we can carry on with gay abandon (pun intended). After all, they're all pervs innit so no difference really.

I think there's also a class hatred that runs parallel to sexual orientation hatred. I'm talking about the blue collar resentment of those who've had better life opportunities and better life outcomes. I'm also talking about suspicion that middle class men particularly those with an interest in art, books, music, poetry are somehow a bit pervy or not quite kosher.

However, the real threat is the determined campaign by a certain ideological group to overturn some very precious and hard-won principles of free societies. Presumption of innocence is one, fair trial is another, free speech yet another. This group has, perhaps fatally, infiltrated the CPS, the police and the media. It's using the corrupted criminal justice system as a weapon to achieve its economic goals. That's why, as JK again rightly observed on Twitter recently, we don't have many plumbers or traffic wardens accused.

JK2006 wrote:
When, as expected, it was referred to Surrey Police, a junior officer, Mark Williams Thomas, was sent up to Shropshire to interview the false accuser.

This we only found out in 2018 (or I’d never have been convicted in 2001). Mark Williams Thomas arrived, sent his sidekick away and spent 11 hours alone with McIntyre and his wife, compiling a list of future “victims” which included Jimmy Savile, Cliff Richard and others (some of whom, including big football names, I’d never believe but I’ve seen the handwritten list) and their rumoured tastes. He then went home, keeping all Kirk’s “exhibits” there for a month before he submitted them back to his Exhibits Officer.

And soon after left the force.

When, in 2018, I pointed this all out to my QC and his Junior, they shot through the roof. Dynamite. Concealed (I believe deliberately) for 18 years.

MWT went on, after leaving Surrey Police under a cloud, never sufficiently explained, and a stint cleaning chewing gum off pavements (something Anna Raccoon discovered and gleefully named him Gumshoe) to expose Jimmy Savile and prompt Carl Beech into greater further fantasies, all provoked by Mark Williams Thomas.

So there you go. It stinks.
That's astonishing. I wonder how names on the list became the subject of online discussion/accusation. Was it just a coincidence or did someone send the online rumour-mill going?

He is talking shite again

mobile.twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1155504099066097665

MWTW wrote:
He is talking shite again

mobile.twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1155504099066097665

When? When was he very clear about his serious concerns? I must have missed that.

Yes Honey exactly, I cannot remember once him stating this in the public arena and obviously not in private as I do not know the man. You can see how delusional he is.
Ah I know, in all those tweets he deleted, must of been there.

Honey - His "serious concerns" made their first public appearance in an article he wrote for The Times 30 August 2015. This was just a few days after Harvey Proctor's press conference at St Ermin's Hotel, London (25 Aug) at which the inquiry was described as a "homosexual witch hunt".

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/savile-was-a-...tch-hunt-rxgg7gzr3fz

It wasn't until January 2016 that it emerged that Beech had given an interview under the alias of “Stephen” in which he alleged he had been abused by Savile. I think the following article could have been the first to break news of this:

Met unaware of VIP accuser's Savile claims
The Times, 26 January 2016
Fiona Hamilton

Metropolitan police detectives were unaware for a "long time" that the man at the centre of their VIP sex abuse inquiry made separate allegations about Jimmy Savile under a different alias, it was claimed last night. The development raises fresh questions about the Met's Operation Midland, which is looking into claims of sex abuse and murder made by a man known as Nick.

The force refused to say when it discovered that Nick used another alias to make claims of abuse by Savile to a television documentary. It refused to confirm whether, when an officer publicly backed Nick's claims as "credible and true" in 2014, it was aware of his earlier involvement in the programme.

Mark Williams Thomas, who exposed Savile as a prolific paedophile, said it was his understanding that detectives were not aware for a long time of Nick's involvement in the documentary. It is claimed that Nick did not mention the BBC presenter when he first spoke to the Met. Mr Williams Thomas said that raised "serious questions" about his credibility.

MWTW wrote:
[quote]He is talking shite again

mobile.twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1155504099066097665

"I simply passed the complainant to the police & had no further involvement."

Not according to the following article which shows MWT acting as a spokesperson and adviser to one of Cliff Richard's complainants.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/clif...buse-accuser-7871222

md wrote:
Honey - His "serious concerns" made their first public appearance in an article he wrote for The Times 30 August 2015. This was just a few days after Harvey Proctor's press conference at St Ermin's Hotel, London (25 Aug) at which the inquiry was described as a "homosexual witch hunt".

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/savile-was-a-...tch-hunt-rxgg7gzr3fz

Then I apologise profusely to Mark Williams Thomas.


He obviously didnt have much influence though, did he?