Everyone drops him, everyone deserts him yet he's not been officially accused of anything other than standing by a friend who may or may not have been guilty of a minor crime. The entire situation reflects the changing morals of society much as Gambo got dropped by the BBC and Top of the Pops has been dropped if anyone vaguely near it might once have been wrongly convicted of a crime. Mainstream media stops mentioning them. Why do you think I started this online site in the mid 1990s?

Mainstream media tells him to express remorse and sympathy for false accusers. Despite Carl Beech and "Nick", nobody seems to have taken in that the majority of sex claims are false; either exaggerated or total fiction. As I said 20 years ago, when massive financial rewards are offered, some people lie. When police assist the criminals ("credible and true") and they escape punishment when found out (Danny Day in the David Bryant case), who can blame them going for riches and sympathy?

And even when the innocent are proclaimed Not Guilty on appeal (Ched Evans) their lives are ruined; no smoke without fire (dry ice?); even if they are never arrested (Cliff Richard).

I suspect Karma is simply waiting patiently. Humanity is due a whopping lesson soon. If we had all, a few years ago, agreed that gassing Jews and Gays and Gypsies was acceptable, I think our species would, by now, have been deservedly eradicated.

It will be interesting to see how the BBC interviews his accuser on Panorama today, if they tread very softly or not and whether they put it on YouTube as they did twice with Prince Andrew's interview (posted once by BBC Newsnight [closed for comments], once by BBC News [open for comments]).

I think he should be treated like anyone else not vilified and held to more exacting standards because of his circumstances of birth...

But that is also the larger - and I suspect growing problem - the monarchy face in justifying itself...

If the veil is liften too often people will realise there is nothing "special" about the individuals and stop conflating that with the institution.

Therein, days are numbered....

I'm appalled by the entire thing and although I'm a fan of royalty although not necessary Andrew.

I believe he'll survive and re-surface and as I said previously..he has a house, a London apartment(Kensington Palace if not Buckingham..oh the suffering !! ) and a cashed up mum..

however something really reeks about his main accuser.

And I'm good at this as I'm a really good old spooky clairvoyant type thing..i believe the main complainant's claims will fall over.

Every time I see her photo I see a "fraud" sign above her head.

What her lawyers and she are doing is demanding police investigate Andrew.

It's not going to happen no matter how much The Sun etc demands it.

# I'm so happy my dear friend Patrick McMullan in NYC is making a motza from selling all his Epstein photos from the Epstein parties he attended. Enough he said to pay for a small summer house in The Hamptons as well as saying these parties almost had a revolving door & were packed with 100s of people and almost a weekly event.

## Andrew's main complainant was paid , I am reliably informed, $200,000 for her Oz 60 Minutes claptrap.
She sold the increasingly suspect Andrew photo fro approx $120,000.

Money money money.

Exactly Wyot.

Why is he being vilified by a media who are well and truly caught up in a phone hacking scandal - still largely unanswered and accountable.

The mind does not boggle on this one!

Ghislaine Maxwell revealed how she hired women to massage pedophile Epstein at his home 'at least once a day' - and admits she KNEW Prince Andrew sex accuser Virginia Roberts was only 17, in newly released court papers

If what she says is true, it sounds as if what I suspected (from the video below) might be the case, i.e. that Virginia Roberts was simply hired to do privately for Jeffrey Epstein the massages she was being employed legally to do in the spa at Trump's Mar-a-Lago club. Not much of a story there.

Was Jeffrey Epstein just a sad middle-aged man who liked to receive massages from young women of an age legally to do them? If so, how dull.

Was just rewatching the part of the Newsnight interview where Prince Andrew says he went to Pizza Express on the day Virginia Roberts claims he slept with her. People commenting online seem to think he's claiming he was eating a pizza in the afternoon as an alibi for the evening. What he actually says is that he took Beatrice to Pizza Express for a party. It was apparently her birthday. And because the Duchess of York was away, he would have been at home with the children. Does anyone seriously believe a father would have spent the evening of his daughter's birthday with Virginia Roberts? Yes, plenty of people, apparently.

The fuss about Andrew makes no sense. Epstein's crime was a trivial one. Legally.
We know this because he was barely in prison for five minutes!
(It is my opinion that procuring 14 year olds is pretty rotten, but obviously the law in America and here disagrees)

So if it is officially recognised as a minor crime, why is Prince Andrew vilified for supporting someone who has served their time?

And if people think hiring fourteen year olds for prostitution needs harsher sentences, wouldn't it be better to campaign for changes for everyone, instead of gleefully stoning Andrew?

And in my view, in THAT photo she looks to be the happiest trafficked person ever.

Why are we only hearing about Andrew like he was the only client?
The media are destroying themselves with such selective reporting.

People should see it for what it is.
A full on stitch up!