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#196830
Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 2 Days ago  
It makes no sense to me to cancel Eurovision 2020. We now have videos. Phone voting. Is it beyond the mind of man to come up with a social distancing format? Likewise Glastonbury, Olympics, Euro2020. Surely there are solutions? Surely by the summer there will be ways where CoronaVirus is considered just like flu? Did we really need to close schools, parks, restaurants etc? Are there no alternative ways?

"They won't be the same" say critics. Correct. So?

Shutting the world down makes no sense. It would if this was as lethal as Ebola but for this trivial virus, a PanicDemic seems inappropriate.
 
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#196840
md

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
Are the government advisers who are experts in their specialised fields of knowledge, also taking into account the wider scheme of things?


“Money is like blood - it needs to circulate for local economies to survive”.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-nor...ess-self-sufficiency
 
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#196841
Blue Boy

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
md wrote:
Are the government advisers who are experts in their specialised fields of knowledge, also taking into account the wider scheme of things?


It is the politicians who make those decisions, and it can't be easy. There are always consequences to any macro strategy. Sometimes a life saved today can cost two lives further down the line due to the economic hardships. What if the equation is save 10 over 80 year olds now or kill five young people later?

Not only are those decisions incredibly tough but even talking about them can get a politician in trouble.

I find the description in the original post of this being a "trivial virus" as one of the most stupid comments made on this board. There is nothing trivial about the virus. TNT may not be as deadly as a nuclear bomb but it still has the potential of being a mass killer. There is a false belief that this virus is just a slighly more troublesome bug than the flu. It isn't, it is something different and as a mutant which has just crossed species is potentialy something that could be dangerous for a very long time.
 
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#196844
Honey

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
Blue Boy wrote:
md wrote:
Are the government advisers who are experts in their specialised fields of knowledge, also taking into account the wider scheme of things?


It is the politicians who make those decisions, and it can't be easy. There are always consequences to any macro strategy. Sometimes a life saved today can cost two lives further down the line due to the economic hardships. What if the equation is save 10 over 80 year olds now or kill five young people later?

Not only are those decisions incredibly tough but even talking about them can get a politician in trouble.

I find the description in the original post of this being a "trivial virus" as one of the most stupid comments made on this board. There is nothing trivial about the virus. TNT may not be as deadly as a nuclear bomb but it still has the potential of being a mass killer. There is a false belief that this virus is just a slighly more troublesome bug than the flu. It isn't, it is something different and as a mutant which has just crossed species is potentialy something that could be dangerous for a very long time.


It could have been a relatively trivial virus if it had been nipped in the bud right away. (Like we all said! )
 
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#196852
Blue Boy

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
Honey wrote:
It could have been a relatively trivial virus if it had been nipped in the bud right away.

Yes and "if my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle"

Honey wrote:
(Like we all said!)

I must have missed those wise words back in January
 
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#196853
Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
We may well die from the PanicDemic. Unlikely from Covid19.

Flu killed 50,000 in England & Wales alone in the 2 month season 2017-18. I got it myself (wrong vaccine that year). I'm still here (just).
 
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#196855
Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
For those in denial that this is a trivial virus, far less lethal than flu at its worst.

www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
 
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#196857
Blue Boy

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
JK2006 wrote:
For those in denial that this is a trivial virus, far less lethal than flu at its worst.

www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b


OK, Lets play the behind the paywall game

www.newscientist.com/article/mg24532683-...ch-a-deadly-problem/

Humans have been exposed to flu for many years and have built immunity. Our bodies may handle this strain of Coronavirus effectively but we don't know yet and thats the issue.
 
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#196859
Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
Don't get me wrong. I'm not welcoming this horrid virus. But it is not the plague. It is not Ebola. The only reason it has attracted all this attention is because the media needed a good story. Sensible governments would have dealt with it far more efficiently and with far less disruption if they had used common sense.
 
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#196860
Barney

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
Blue Boy wrote:
Humans have been exposed to flu for many years and have built immunity. Our bodies may handle this strain of Coronavirus effectively but we don't know yet and thats the issue.

Precisely - we don't know!

Zoonotic or whatever it is, we must be careful - and take extreme measures for protection.

To do otherwise would be a crime against humanity.


Hopefully - influenza is much worse than coronavirus....



 
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#196861
Blue Boy

Re:Simplification, media, governments, cancellations. 1 Week, 1 Day ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Don't get me wrong. I'm not welcoming this horrid virus. But it is not the plague. It is not Ebola. The only reason it has attracted all this attention is because the media needed a good story. Sensible governments would have dealt with it far more efficiently and with far less disruption if they had used common sense.

Your ego knows no bounds.
 
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