You may think it doesn't matter; well, it does. Like everything else. If the media is right and experts are right, politicians are right to close down society. Shut theatres; ruin livelihoods; provoke suicides; bankrupt innocent people. Just like the False Allegations Industry. The ramifications of decisions are enormous.

Because we have to stop this lethal plague.

If, of course, it is NOT a lethal plague but just a trivial virus for the majority, advising the vulnerable to avoid gatherings; increasing health security in care homes, prisons, refugee camps, hospitals. Then this is and has been massive over reaction; panic induced by media exaggerating the reality. In order to make panic worse, daily death figures are quoted as though it is killing millions instead of hundreds.

I leave it to you. Far be it for me to play the Wicked Queen.

I've only just succeeded in persuading a judge and jury that the Emperors of Fake Claims were naked.

I can't stand panto even has a kid but it makes money. Theatres are getting bailed out like the banks but for how long ?

Promoter's lining up gigs for next year but will they be going ahead ?

Another reason to be cheerful - the return of cinemas!

I don't care what anyone says about the convenience of Netflicks or irritating pop-corn munchers...

Films viewed at the cinema are the best.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53592481

The Guildford pantomime has already been cancelled, so I would say they are unlikely to be happening anywhere else. Theatres would need to be organising their pantos about this time, so it is already too late. Many theatres rely on their pantos to sustain them for the rest of the year, so it is a major blow that they are cancelled.

I don't know why they can't allow people to watch with masks, or have those perspex screens between each seat. People sit on seats side by side, so I would have thought that the risk would be very low.

People in public are been absolutely paranoid about cleanliness and social distancing, however in their private lives the young are having house parties, barbecues, and mixing with their friends without a care about coronavirus. Just heard a 21 year old caller on Jeremy Vine saying this very thing about his generation.

robbiex wrote:
The Guildford pantomime has already been cancelled, so I would say they are unlikely to be happening anywhere else. Theatres would need to be organising their pantos about this time, so it is already too late. Many theatres rely on their pantos to sustain them for the rest of the year, so it is a major blow that they are cancelled.

I don't know why they can't allow people to watch with masks, or have those perspex screens between each seat. People sit on seats side by side, so I would have thought that the risk would be very low.

People in public are been absolutely paranoid about cleanliness and social distancing, however in their private lives the young are having house parties, barbecues, and mixing with their friends without a care about coronavirus. Just heard a 21 year old caller on Jeremy Vine saying this very thing about his generation.

The perspex screens and most masks are pretty well useless and just for show.

You might be sitting side by side in a theatre but you are breathing right onto the poor sod in front of you.

I have no words to convey how heartily sick I am of the ongoing farce.

If we had to wear a mask for the theatres then goodbye theatres. It's bad enough taken them off and putting them back on between shops. Some theatres are very hot and humid. Wearing a mask would be bad idea.
There's one in Eastbourne as it's a listed building they can't install air-conditioning. It is very uncomfortable sitting at the top tier.

Would seats had to be redesigned to fit the Perspex glass between seat ?

The small clubs will have a problem where the band perform on a platform not more than a few feet tall, whilst the fans are close.

Honey wrote:]
The perspex screens and most masks are pretty well useless and just for show.
That's not what we're told, at least about masks (e.g. Mayo Clinic). But there must be a lot of people who think the same, if they're out partying.

I don't understand the apparent resistance by some in the UK and USA to wearing masks. They've been worn in Asian and European countries as a matter of course and without any fuss for months. Brits and Americans are looking like big kids, or worse, i.e. that they don't care about the welfare of the people around them.

wyot wrote:
Another reason to be cheerful - the return of cinemas!

I don't care what anyone says about the convenience of Netflicks or irritating pop-corn munchers...

Films viewed at the cinema are the best.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53592481

I agree, you can't beat watching films on the big screen with excellent sound. It is easier to become fully absorbed by the film, you are not looking at your phone, or looking out of the window.
However with Covid restrictions, if you go on your own or in a pair, then the cinema will have to have 16 seats around you free, which would seriously reduce the capactiy and make it unsustainable.

Honey wrote:
robbiex wrote:
The Guildford pantomime has already been cancelled, so I would say they are unlikely to be happening anywhere else. Theatres would need to be organising their pantos about this time, so it is already too late. Many theatres rely on their pantos to sustain them for the rest of the year, so it is a major blow that they are cancelled.

I don't know why they can't allow people to watch with masks, or have those perspex screens between each seat. People sit on seats side by side, so I would have thought that the risk would be very low.

People in public are been absolutely paranoid about cleanliness and social distancing, however in their private lives the young are having house parties, barbecues, and mixing with their friends without a care about coronavirus. Just heard a 21 year old caller on Jeremy Vine saying this very thing about his generation.

The perspex screens and most masks are pretty well useless and just for show.

You might be sitting side by side in a theatre but you are breathing right onto the poor sod in front of you.

I have no words to convey how heartily sick I am of the ongoing farce.

Surely the virus can't penetrate through a perspex screen, and you can't inhable the virus from the back of your head.

robbiex wrote:
Surely the virus can't penetrate through a perspex screen, and you can't inhable the virus from the back of your head.


Nobody knows what this new virus is capable of - and that very thing could well be the cause of infection.

Jo wrote:
Honey wrote:]
The perspex screens and most masks are pretty well useless and just for show.
That's not what we're told, at least about masks (e.g. Mayo Clinic). But there must be a lot of people who think the same, if they're out partying.

I don't understand the apparent resistance by some in the UK and USA to wearing masks. They've been worn in Asian and European countries as a matter of course and without any fuss for months. Brits and Americans are looking like big kids, or worse, i.e. that they don't care about the welfare of the people around them.

Oh I care, Jo. I care far too deeply to breathe all over people in a mask that really doesn't stop much of the virus at all.
Of course it is better than nothing, but we have much much more efficient masks, so if stopping the virus is important enough to restrict freedom, decimate the economy and put thousands of people on the dole, (I'm not suggesting it isn't) they should at the very least be recommending, if not supplying, the best masks?

Barney wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Surely the virus can't penetrate through a perspex screen, and you can't inhable the virus from the back of your head.


Nobody knows what this new virus is capable of - and that very thing could well be the cause of infection.





It really could. We touch our heads all the time. If droplets are on it they will be in our mouths soon after.

If we need everything open and back to normal that makes perfect sense. Go ahead and Hurrah! But pretending people are saved by a chopped up sock and a misplaced bit of perspex is lunacy.

We should stay healthy the best we can and learn to live with it. Covid won't go away, what will happen if there's further lockdown and job losses ?

There's not enough in the treasury for every UK citizen and charity.

Has stock trading has become easier with apps, so will stock broker's be the next on the dole ?

I wonder how Butlins and Haven are coping, you can't have all the entertainment outside. If you can't eat in many areas and need to order pizza in the chalet or caravan, is it worth going ?

Being a camp entertainer is not an easy job. Not forgetting the young lads and kids love to dance with the female staff.

When the female staff do dance they get offered drinks from the lads or families when they are off duty. Not a bad perk.

Barney wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Surely the virus can't penetrate through a perspex screen, and you can't inhable the virus from the back of your head.


Nobody knows what this new virus is capable of - and that very thing could well be the cause of infection.






nypost.com/2020/07/30/fauci-urges-americ...tter_impression=true

What ever next buttplugs ? I can see our leader's making sure we do though. The police and do-gooders would be asking us to drop our trousers or skirts and to bend over in the street to make sure.

Dr Fauci was definitely picked on and us now taking it out on the Americans.

This virus is mainly been spread by people going in and out of each others houses and not social distancing, and almost nothing to do with restaurants, shops or pubs where people are largely social distancing. The places where there are the biggest cases are Leicester, Bedford, Luton, Rotherham, Blackburn, and Oldham. Can anyone see the connection, but no one is allowed to say. They all have high south asian populations, who tend to not go to pubs, and have large social gatherings. They are now not allowed to go to each other's houses, which you couldn't before anyway without social distancing, however the new restrictions aren't going to make any difference as they weren't complying with the old rules, why would they comply with the new rules.

There are various possibilities for BME over representation Robbie being looked into from skin pigmentation and vitamin d, genetic profiles, job roles and exposure to yes - overcrowding.

But nothing conclusive yet I don't think.

How do you know "they" weren't complying with the old rules?

robbiex wrote:
This virus is mainly been spread by people going in and out of each others houses and not social distancing, and almost nothing to do with restaurants, shops or pubs where people are largely social distancing. The places where there are the biggest cases are Leicester, Bedford, Luton, Rotherham, Blackburn, and Oldham. Can anyone see the connection, but no one is allowed to say. They all have high south asian populations, who tend to not go to pubs, and have large social gatherings. They are now not allowed to go to each other's houses, which you couldn't before anyway without social distancing, however the new restrictions aren't going to make any difference as they weren't complying with the old rules, why would they comply with the new rules.

Not forgetting have about 2 - 3 generations in one house. Catholics are/ were the same.