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Re:Carl Beech on TV 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Re:Carl Beech on TV 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Jo wrote:
Pretty disturbing that he used to be a paediatric nurse. Presumably (?) he'll be perfectly safe in not having his activities while in that role investigated. How ironic that the authorities should refrain from doing that while happily going along with the tales of everyone else claiming abuse by Jimmy Savile.
I want to know what his wife saw in him. Carl has a spooky smile, seems to be crap in bed, very overweight even in his younger days and a series of very shit haircuts.
The police probably just saw the pound signs; if they could crack this case with Beech there be millions more in book deals. I'm sure MWT would of been on the bandwagon somewhere.
I have no idea if Beech was abused by his stepfather; but Beech does seem to be a very disturbed person, especially what he Googled and downloaded. 🤮
Beech has certainly fucked it up now for a lot genuine victim's and survivors of sexual abuse what a stupid and cruel 🤬.
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Re:Carl Beech on TV 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Re his wife, I'd been thinking the same thing. I'd assumed that he'd put on weight, but as you say, photos show that he was overweight even when younger. He also apparently had poor personal hygiene ( source).
I'm guessing his stepfather didn't abuse him. If he was lying about everyone else, chances are he was lying about him too. As pointed out in the Barthsnotes link above, he had apparently waited until his stepfather was dead before accusing him.
There is also input from Joan Harborne, the ex-wife of Beech’s deceased step-father Raymond Beech, and their daughter Heather, who would have been Carl Beech’s step-sister (Beech was born Carl Gass, but took his step-father’s surname). Ray Beech was the first person whom Carl Beech accused of “historic” sex abuse, and Dawn Beech believes that this allegation at least was genuine. However, Harborne and Heather are adamant that this is not the case, and a PA journalist named Tom Wilkinson adds that Carl had employed a private investigator to find out whether Ray Beech was still alive before he first went to police in 2012 – indicating that he made efforts to ensure Ray was no longer around to defend himself before he made his first allegations.
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Re:Carl Beech on TV 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Just came across this excellent post from Misa, among other interesting posts on the same page:
Beech began with Savile. That is why he was believed.
The Metropolitan police had told us that he – Savile – was guilty, without an investigation (well they couldn't; he'd been dead a year) and, of course, without a trial. The Met allowed the NSPCC to man the phone lines for Operation Yewtree – to record all of Savile's crimes, once his guilt had been announced on television. This is of course is the route to obtaining what's required for a CICA claim – a crime number.
Womble-suit rapes, eyeballs stolen from the morgue to make jewellery, anything goes. The Met tell us his 'every waking moment' was spent thinking about offending...and remind us of the oxymoronic trope 'hiding in plain sight'...not to mention telling us it was the tip of an iceberg. Don't trust your own eyes, your own experience, whatever you do!
An omnivorous predator – infants, teenage boys and girls, young men and women, some in middle-age, old people, and, of course, corpses. Do you believe that? The first human being in history with a sexual preference for absolutely everything.
The police declared him guilty. The courts approved the division of his estate among the compo lawyers (not enough to pay their customers, of course), I suppose CICA (i.e. we) picked up the tab.
As the Mail reported this week, even with the bar to receiving compensation set so pitifully low that Carl Beech could succeed in his claims, the majority of the CICA claims for Savile were rejected. Seriously. More people too thick to claim than actually capable of it. But, of course, this wouldn't have affected their lawyers' fees from the estate.
The BBC and the NHS spent millions on reports commissioned to establish their own innocence – not to consider whether any of the accusations were even plausible – and of course, they happily settled with the grifters and fantasists who applied.
It's not even remotely surprising that Carl Beech was believed. The Met sponsored even more bizarre allegations against Savile. Once you believe those, why not believe such of retired bishops...and the rest of us?
hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2019/07/...ons-for-the-pol.html
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Re:Carl Beech on TV 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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JK2006 wrote:
...the Internet has really helped criminals gather facts and details to make false claims seem credible...
I definitely think that happened in the Rolf Harris case. Tonya Lee, who gave an interview to Woman's Day magazine (one of her pre-trial paid interviews), which reported that she became "fixated on child sexual assault cases", suggesting that she'd been busy online, had a story, given in a paid TV interview in May 2013, uploaded immediately to YouTube, that had numerous points in common with an interview about alleged abuse by Jimmy Savile given seven months earlier to This Morning, uploaded immediately to YouTube, by Jimmy Savile's great niece (who according to the Daily Mail was considered by various family members, including her own daughter, to be lying and was subsequently investigated for fraud).
I think the online activity of accusers should be investigated as a matter of course, not just that of accusees.
When following Rolf Harris's 2014 trial in the media, I also noticed that the prosecution barrister had been using language to describe him that mirrored how Jimmy Savile had been described in media reports published online, e.g. "untouchable", "Jekyll and Hyde", "dark side" ( source). RH accusers were also reported to have described him in court as a "dirty old man" and "octopus" with "hands everywhere". Interestingly, all these expressions are euphemisms, not specific but allowing the listener's/reader's imagination to do the work and think the worst.
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