I'm puzzled why there have not been test and trace expensive campaigns for Flu or even the Common Cold.

Doctors will tell me "that's because people know when they have Flu". But do they? Don't some people get very mild Flu? Slight cough? Sneezes? Or even no symptoms at all (another new 2020 word - Asymptomatic).

Who knows? It's never been investigated (as far as I know). And if it COULD happen, would tests for flu have revealed millions of sufferers with no symptoms at all? I know nothing.

So why is Covid19 now considered FAR more infectious than Flu? Could it be because the majority were and are never tested for Flu?

I thought one of Trump's brighter comments was that he could minimise the amount of Covid infections by testing fewer people. Quite right.

As we now know (London latest statistics) the amount of excess deaths this week is the same as the average past 5 years. Covid19 can be very nasty for the unfortunate, as can Flu or even the Common Cold.

Cancer can be lethal for some; despite enhanced medical care, about 450 people a day die in the UK every day from Cancer.

Now if I were in government, I'd ban smoking, responsible for the vast majority of those deaths.
Yes that would have an impact on the Treasury. But it would save far more lives than stupid Lockdown or Tier rules and laws and would have far less impact on others.

Am I mad? From Day One the gullibles have declared me so.

They already know that most people carrying flu or colds show no symptoms, and what is a mild sniffle for you can be a hospital trip or worse for someone else.

I think you posted elsewhere JK that the C19 story is effectively over and I agree.

With mass vaccines coming by next spring we will start to forget about this next year. I suspect after the "cancel or not Xmas story" we will see it reduce in the media to make way for Brexit and other new horrors.

Obviously given my posts I think you and others have been proven right now.

The evidence is coming in and slowly the millions who fell for the nonsense panic are waking; a national news paper is now going to town with the now sexier story of how the Gov has ruined the economy and tens of thousands of lives for no reason.

The magnitude of the error will become clearer over the coming year. Boris will be gone as spring makes way for summer; if the entire Gov does not collapse.

There are reasons to be optimistic.

But 2020 what a year...

The year no more people died than any other year, but we killed tens of thousands through lockdown to protect imaginary future fatalities and ruined the prospects of millions.

If we learn anything from this it must surely be that we can't continue to Govern answering to the media. 2020 has been the year where millions of lives have been ruined because for so long now Governments have danced to their tune; to sensationalism.

And in the end this is all that has happened in 2020. It is no more complicated than that.

And as I said on another thread, the possible consequences are that when a really lethal bug (like Ebola) emerges (as it will) and media warns of it, everyone (including governments - once fooled) will say "Cry Wolf" and ignore it, with disastrous consequences. That is my fear.

JK2006 wrote:
And as I said on another thread, the possible consequences are that when a really lethal bug (like Ebola) emerges (as it will) and media warns of it, everyone (including governments - once fooled) will say "Cry Wolf" and ignore it, with disastrous consequences. That is my fear.

I agree our reaction to Covid in 2020 sets this up as a terrible possibility.

Just to add on this site to the escalating data evidencing that lockdowns make no difference, a study now on Norway (harsh lockdown) and Sweden (no lockdown).

For those interested:

There is no difference in either country in terms of overall deaths from the preceeding 3-4 years. Just in how deaths were recorded.

If there has been NO increase in overall deaths, what on earth has this all been about?

And where is the evidence proving that lockdown has saved a single life, so I can challenge my own bias on this subject?

www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20201116/S...tter_impression=true

Matt Hancock is obviously an avid reader of this forum.

He wants to stop the silly culture of soldiering on into work when you are ill and infecting everybody else.

I fully agree with him. I am appalled that people think it is ok to make other people ill, but I don't think many people actually want to work if they are feeling rough, but simply cant afford to take the time off unpaid, and they are often disciplined if it happens a few times.

School children need a doctors note to stay home, are subject to welfare checks if absent, and are actually rewarded with certificates, prizes, and day trips for good attendance. (excluding the children with health issues )

So it is not really surprising if people overdose on the lemsip or calpol and get on with it.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/24/ma...ight-flu-after-covid

Sweden might have ended up in the same lousy position as everyone else, but at least their economy is ok.

And that Honey is exactly the point; this virus seems to work its way through no matter what you do; even countries like Australia and South Korea and Germany which coped well have found it reaches them eventually. Drastic measures are provoked by believing the hype instead of the reality with ghastly consequences.