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TOPIC: Vaccines
#204527
Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
As we move into 2021 it looks as though our "experts" and "scientists" who believe the media rather than the reality, just as Governments do, are yet again stumped by Covid19. It appears that the new "variant" coming from South Africa may not be susceptible to any vaccines yet discovered (strangely in about 5 minutes which, to many, implied cutting corners). Just as the FLU vaccine in 2017-2018 failed and allowed the virus to kill 50,000 in England and Wales alone in 3 months (about 4 times as many as Covid has killed in 12 months), so we may now be looking at Covid19 moving forward despite vaccines.

Oh really; when on earth will somebody, somewhere start thinking ahead?
 
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#204532
Wyot

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Yep the virus will mutate; that's what they do. Mutations more often lessen lethality than increase it (a dead host is no good) so we may find that even if it is less receptive to the available vaccines it is less dangerous (even than existing strains).

But if the Gov don't change the logic behind how they respond to C19 and any new trivial emerging viruses, we are stuck with this shit forever....
 
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#204540
Alison

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
The mutation is less dangerous?

So far, there's absolutely no evidence of that.

What is clear if that it's much more infectious.

Between 60% and 70% more!

As a result, our hospitals are nearing capacity.
 
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#204542
hedda

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Of course Covid will mutate and possibly become more dangerous.

Just as JK's fabled Influenza mutates into deadlier strains year after year

But it took 100 years to work out Flu vaccines.

It could be Mother Nature's way of getting rid of multi-millions on the planet as they are destroying the joint.

# not us lot of course. And most definitely not me at present.
 
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#204544
Honey

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Alison wrote:
The mutation is less dangerous?

So far, there's absolutely no evidence of that.

What is clear if that it's much more infectious.

Between 60% and 70% more!

As a result, our hospitals are nearing capacity.


Wyot didn't say that this mutation was less dangerous.
He said they TEND to become less lethal, because if they kill their host they cant reproduce, and this is true.
 
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#204545
Honey

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Oh, and the hospitals are filling up because some dickheads shut down the spare hospitals and didn't think to get staff ready. Not "because" of the virus.
 
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#204547
Wyot

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Alison wrote:
The mutation is less dangerous?

So far, there's absolutely no evidence of that.



Learn to read or stop pissing me about; whichever is the problem.
 
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#204551
Honey

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
Alison wrote:
The mutation is less dangerous?

So far, there's absolutely no evidence of that.



Learn to read or stop pissing me about; whichever is the problem.


You put it so much better than I did.
 
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#204554
Alison

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Honey wrote:
the hospitals are filling up because some dickheads shut down the spare hospitals

Not "because" of the virus



Clearly not the case...


www.itv.com/news/2021-01-08/covid-varian...ases-figures-suggest
 
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#204555
Honey

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Alison wrote:
Honey wrote:
the hospitals are filling up because some dickheads shut down the spare hospitals

Not "because" of the virus



Clearly not the case...


www.itv.com/news/2021-01-08/covid-varian...ases-figures-suggest


What are you talking about?
This article just tells us about the new mutant. (virus, not Whitty) It reinforces what I was saying, that the reason the hospitals are full is because dickheads put coronavirus patients in them instead of the Nightingales.

We HAD somewhere to treat all the excess patients. Now we haven't.
 
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#204556
Wyot

Re:Vaccines 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Honey wrote:
Alison wrote:
Honey wrote:
the hospitals are filling up because some dickheads shut down the spare hospitals

Not "because" of the virus



Clearly not the case...


www.itv.com/news/2021-01-08/covid-varian...ases-figures-suggest


What are you talking about?
This article just tells us about the new mutant. (virus, not Whitty) It reinforces what I was saying, that the reason the hospitals are full is because dickheads put coronavirus patients in them instead of the Nightingales.

We HAD somewhere to treat all the excess patients. Now we haven't.


He needs to learn to read or stop pissing you about Honey; whichever is the problem.
 
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