The BBC after all has long ceased to be a news channel...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56030340

Being banned by China - is really a badge of honour for the BBC.

Just like for many organisations like the United Nations, Amnesty International etc.

Who are rightly critical of China's appalling civil rights record.

It's only because of these organisations' reports that we even know anything about what's happening in the country.

Can we ban the BBC also please ?

China is right BBC is fake news like the rest of the media.

emile wrote:
Being banned by China - is really a badge of honour for the BBC.

Just like for many organisations like the United Nations, Amnesty International etc.

Who are rightly critical of China's appalling civil rights record.

It's only because of these organisations' reports that we even know anything about what's happening in the country.

Any news outlet that has been informing us daily that a virus has shut down and ruined the world is no longer to be trusted on any subject whatsoever.

Wyot wrote:
emile wrote:
Being banned by China - is really a badge of honour for the BBC.

Just like for many organisations like the United Nations, Amnesty International etc.

Who are rightly critical of China's appalling civil rights record.

It's only because of these organisations' reports that we even know anything about what's happening in the country.

Any news outlet that has been informing us daily that a virus has shut down and ruined the world is no longer to be trusted on any subject whatsoever.

Sky News have been great with that Wyot. They love twisting the facts for their own agendas and only let "EXPERTS" on if that agree with them. Sophie Ridge likes to bark at those with a different view to hers but then nods like one those dogs we have in the car if the opinion matches hers.

Wyot wrote:
Any news outlet that has been informing us daily that a virus has shut down and ruined the world is no longer to be trusted on any subject whatsoever.


No news source is perfect, and neither is the BBC. However their general coverage is excellent - like that of Brexit and US politics. And it isn't as though the virus is just peripheral or incidental, to the woes of the world.

emile wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Any news outlet that has been informing us daily that a virus has shut down and ruined the world is no longer to be trusted on any subject whatsoever.


No news source is perfect, and neither is the BBC. However their general coverage is excellent - like that of Brexit and US politics. And it isn't as though the virus is just peripheral or incidental, to the woes of the world.

How do you know their "general coverage is excellent" on Brexit and US politics? They have done nothing but mislead us about a virus for a year (economic harm and lockdown deaths are caused by Gov response to a virus not the virus itself. Shops aren't closed because) of a pandemic) and not challenged the Government at all.

So by what measure are you sure their coverage isn't equally as misleading on any other subject?

emile wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Any news outlet that has been informing us daily that a virus has shut down and ruined the world is no longer to be trusted on any subject whatsoever.


No news source is perfect, and neither is the BBC. However their general coverage is excellent - like that of Brexit and US politics. And it isn't as though the virus is just peripheral or incidental, to the woes of the world.

Leave the drugs alone - they don't do anything for you.

The principal of having the BBC is a good one that most people have been happy with for a long time until recently,

Instead of banning it, why not change it to how it is meant to be?
Cancelling it is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Wyot wrote:
are you sure their coverage isn't equally as misleading on any other subject?


Yes - it's why the BBC has more listeners than any other worldwide news service.

Its journalistic standards are why hundreds of millions tune in, on every continent.

Those services peddling propaganda, lies and misinformation don't have that massive following.

Going on for decades, in dozens of languages - and heard daily in over 200 countries.

emile wrote:
Wyot wrote:
are you sure their coverage isn't equally as misleading on any other subject?


Yes - it's why the BBC has more listeners than any other worldwide news service.

Its journalistic standards are why hundreds of millions tune in, on every continent.

Those services peddling propaganda, lies and misinformation don't have that massive following.

Going on for decades, in dozens of languages - and heard daily in over 200 countries.

A lot of people follow the BBC and have done for decades - yes I am aware of this.

This is because we used to have only the BBC and a couple of other channels. It is free beyond the licence fee. Ubiquitous. Historic. Habitual. I love a lot of the output too; dramas and nature programmes in particular. Though current affairs has sunk to the pits in recent years - Question Time unwatchable now.

But they have betrayed the trust in them. You talk about propaganda - BBC news may as well have been edited and presented by the Government since last March regarding Covid.

If their journalistic standards are so low on this subject, I don't see how we can trust them on any other. And your repetition of viewing numbers does not address this question at all.

Well the hundreds of millions of regular BBC listeners don't seem to think their journalistic standards are low!

But a minority view is acceptable. Just like many hate sports - like association football and cricket.

But the followers of these games almost equate to the population of the world - so they must hold some attractions/have some merit.

You (Wyot) don't rate the BBC and hold that the media is responsible for the consequences of covid.

Again, some will disagree - and just like you, are fully entitled to their opinions.

emile wrote:


You (Wyot) don't rate the BBC and hold that the media is responsible for the consequences of covid.

I have said I rate many aspects of the BBC highly, just not now current affairs or news coverage - where they need to get their act together.

Not sure where sport has come from; I haven't said anything about sport, and enjoy Match of the Day as much as anyone! - this thread has been about China and BBC news.

I don't hold the media responsible for the consequences of Covid, which is a tiny percentage of people becoming seriously ill, and an even smaller percentage dying "with" it.

Media has yes in my view massively hyped the risk of the virus and influenced the Government's response to the virus to devastatingly destructive ends.

emile wrote:
Wyot wrote:
are you sure their coverage isn't equally as misleading on any other subject?


Yes - it's why the BBC has more listeners than any other worldwide news service.

Its journalistic standards are why hundreds of millions tune in, on every continent.

Those services peddling propaganda, lies and misinformation don't have that massive following.

Going on for decades, in dozens of languages - and heard daily in over 200 countries.

If you like propaganda and woke shit - then yes you would like the BBC.