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TOPIC: Woody Allen
#206038
Honey

Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
It goes on and on, doesn't it?
I can understand his family hating him, but what is the motive for those who facilitate it? They appear to be missing the real good story, if that is what they are looking for?
 
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#206055
Jo

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
Perhaps an element of the attraction of these stories and why HBO is stirring it up again with a documentary series is that some want abuse to have taken place because they find the idea titillating. Unfortunately, Woody Allen didn't do himself any favours by getting involved with his partner's adopted daughter and many will believe the abuse story because he did that. It sounds as if this documentary series will ensure that people who haven't heard both sides of the story have mainly one side drummed into them. Though Allen and his wife do seem to have been speaking out about it, a few newspaper articles might not be enough to counteract a documentary series, which it's natural to assume would be factual.

Woody Allen says doc is 'riddled with falsehoods'

Moses Farrow: ‘I’d be very happy to take my father’s surname’ ("In his first newspaper interview, the adopted son of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen talks about an atmosphere of anger and hatred in his family, the problems of transracial adoption – and his certainty that his sister was not abused by their father")

A SON SPEAKS OUT By Moses Farrow
 
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#206061
Green Man

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
He only made about 4 good films.

“These pretzels are making me thirsty”
 
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#206069
hedda

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
I disagree Green Man.. I lurve all Woody Allen's films.

I'm fascinated how the Witch Hunts now work (and there are real witches to be hunted ).

While Woody was accused a long time ago and apparently 2 investigations cleared him or said there was no case to answer..when the whole matter flared up recently some actors who appeared in his recent films screeched they would never again.
(ignoring that the bulk of sales of Woody's films comes from mainly Europe where folk are a bit more enlightened)

Mia doesn't seem the most stable of mothers..some kids stayed with her and others fled.

As to Woody's relationship with his wife

Soon Yi has remained devoted to Woody and has had children by him and is now 50 years old. Yet she's treated by all the media who attack Allen as a total non entity whose view is never sought and apparently whose feelings are insignificant.
 
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#206071
Honey

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
I don't like to think of anyone as racist or anti-Semitic, but the articles keep mentioning him being Jewish, when it is of no relevance or interest at all.
 
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#206072
Laschet

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
Jo wrote:
Perhaps an element of the attraction of these stories and why HBO is stirring it up again with a documentary series is that some want abuse to have taken place because they find the idea titillating. Unfortunately, Woody Allen didn't do himself any favours by getting involved with his partner's adopted daughter and many will believe the abuse story because he did that. It sounds as if this documentary series will ensure that people who haven't heard both sides of the story have mainly one side drummed into them. Though Allen and his wife do seem to have been speaking out about it, a few newspaper articles might not be enough to counteract a documentary series, which it's natural to assume would be factual.

Woody Allen says doc is 'riddled with falsehoods'

Moses Farrow: ‘I’d be very happy to take my father’s surname’ ("In his first newspaper interview, the adopted son of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen talks about an atmosphere of anger and hatred in his family, the problems of transracial adoption – and his certainty that his sister was not abused by their father")

A SON SPEAKS OUT By Moses Farrow



Excellent post - with detail, background and analysis. Thanks.


 
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#206079
Wyot

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 5 Days ago  
I also love Woody Allen's films though the quality is inevitably variable when he makes a film every year or so. His earlier work is remarkable; particularly for me Annie Hall & Broadway Danny Rose. I think in his 30s/40s he showed genuine comic genius. But some later work has been great too - Blue Jasmine (2013) is a wonderful film.

As for the "controversy"; well who can know. If he is innocent what a thing to have constantly hanging over an evidently sensitive man. Mia Farrow does seem unstable; but equally that could be mysoginistic hype. But in my view if there was ever an attempt to "cancel" his work it is future generations of film lovers who will lose out for no point.

The work is not the artist the artist is not the work. Why is this so hard to grasp for so many?
 
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#206106
Green Man

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 4 Days ago  
Wyot wrote:
I also love Woody Allen's films though the quality is inevitably variable when he makes a film every year or so. His earlier work is remarkable; particularly for me Annie Hall & Broadway Danny Rose. I think in his 30s/40s he showed genuine comic genius. But some later work has been great too - Blue Jasmine (2013) is a wonderful film.

As for the "controversy"; well who can know. If he is innocent what a thing to have constantly hanging over an evidently sensitive man. Mia Farrow does seem unstable; but equally that could be mysoginistic hype. But in my view if there was ever an attempt to "cancel" his work it is future generations of film lovers who will lose out for no point.

The work is not the artist the artist is not the work. Why is this so hard to grasp for so many?


As long we can watch Bananas who the fuck actually cares ?
 
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#206114
Honey

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 3 Days ago  
I don't think I have ever seen a Woody Allen film. I saw a bit of Annie Hall and got bored and wandered off to serve universally or something.
 
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#206116
Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 3 Days ago  
Oh at his best he's brilliant Honey; try Blue Jasmine.
 
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#206120
Green Man

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 3 Days ago  
Honey wrote:
I don't think I have ever seen a Woody Allen film. I saw a bit of Annie Hall and got bored and wandered off to serve universally or something.

If you saw Peep Show and enjoyed it then you like Annie Hall if not watch Play It Again, Sam.
 
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#206123
Wyot

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 3 Days ago  
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:


As long we can watch Bananas who the fuck actually cares ?


I love the scene in Bananas when he parks his car up saying something about "the greatest crimes are the crimes against human dignity..." opens his car door, gets out and falls straight down an open man hole.
 
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#206131
Green Man

Re:Woody Allen 1 Week, 3 Days ago  
Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:


As long we can watch Bananas who the fuck actually cares ?


I love the scene in Bananas when he parks his car up saying something about "the greatest crimes are the crimes against human dignity..." opens his car door, gets out and falls straight down an open man hole.


Lets have movie night one day.

I have some classic Dr Hook records to boogie to.
 
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