Talking about what is going on there; avoiding the media exaggeration, trying to exist in the dangerous situation. Who knows what will happen when the Taliban take control (as they will). Many will die but far fewer than during wars - until the civil wars break out. Just like in Burma (whatever it is now called) once it has ceased to be, like Brexit or Covid or other media great stories, ceased to be of media interest. As in Iran - an absolute nightmare if you believe media, continuing to exist, in reality.

Life in wars is ghastly. Life in oppressive regimes is ghastly. As we know, life in countries where criminals can run rife is awful - indeed, as I found out over the past 20 years, life can sometimes be ended, just as much as in wars (Surrey Police Operation Ravine killed three people; at least in each of their opinions). Unless media decides it is a good story, life goes on, good or bad, violent or free, everywhere.

I am have no idea what will happen in Afghanistan, maybe it will be divided in two.

Religion is nasty.

The Afghan president has now fucked off and Taliban are now in Kabul. UN are quiet and Pakistan don't seem to care either.

Green Man wrote:
The Afghan president has now fucked off and Taliban are now in Kabul. UN are quiet and Pakistan don't seem to care either.

I suppose we could try invading Afghanistan on the basis that The Taleban may harbour Al Queda cells and so put us at increased risk of terrorism...?

Just read that The Taliban has now set up checkpoints at every entry point to Kabul; over reacting like the rest of the world to Covid...

Or is that another thread...

Have an early and sober night

Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
The Afghan president has now fucked off and Taliban are now in Kabul. UN are quiet and Pakistan don't seem to care either.

I suppose we could try invading Afghanistan on the basis that The Taleban may harbour Al Queda cells and so put us at increased risk of terrorism...?

No UK and USA have done enough carnage. But Bush and Blair need to be put on trail ASAP.

Chris Wallace is angry also and he supported Biden on many occasions. 'Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f-things up' - Obama



I didn't like Johnny Carson as a person but I loved his rants on politician's on his show, whether they were from the left or right he didn't give a fuck (Carson used to tease to his fans and viewers, he never said who he voted for in elections). Biden has been in politics for 50 years and has done absolutely NOTHING. Trump is not office so he can't keep using that excuse. So maybe he blame some dude called Corn Pop.

This will never get old.

What astonishes me is that so many people are saying "How can this have happened so fast?". Wasn't it obvious - to us observers, let alone to those with information. Simple slogans work. That's why Brexit happened. That's why Covid became a PanicDemic. Give people a simplistic headline and they will be prepared to die for it. Complicated philosophies simply don't work anymore.

"Democracy is good"??? No it's not; often it doesn't work. "Autocracy is bad"??? No, not always. If it's benign and the autocrat is decent, it can work. "Communism is bad (or good"??? No, it has elements of both in it.

But most people are simply no longer able to consider or accept complex.

The vast majority of Afghans (let alone soldiers) were unable to see a simple slogan. "Be prepared to die for the love of an extreme religion" is a nice, handy philosophy requiring obedience, not thought. Remember the Crusades? Remember Northern Ireland? Remember Palestine & Israel?