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Gary is on the ball (excuse the pun) here. Edwina is totally out of touch, you can't just go in to any hotel or pub and ask get a job !
Many publicans and hotel managers want people with experience or willing to do a trial. Nothing upsets the chef or customers more is a slow waiter/waitress or a crap kitchen porter.
Restaurant porter jobs are normally given to whose who have kitchen experience. When I employed people 99% of them needed to have previous experience and references from proper employers - not references from teachers or tutors.
In the mid 2000's we needed a new kitchen porter (We always did interviews in 2 stages - stage one was the general Q&A - stage 2 was them demonstrating how they work).
The job went to a woman whom has never worked in a professional kitchen prior but she had a good application from and CV. She demonstrated to us how quick and through she did the tasks such as loading and unloading the dish washer, she packed away the crockery and cutlery in the right places. And she didn't need to look at the plans or layouts that the chef had on the walls. It was done by instinct by her and stacked pint and wine glasses away in crates which do become heavy and she then carried them in to the bar without dropping anything.
When my mate asked her "How you do everything perfectly ?" Her response was "A woman knows and my kitchen is my domain at home". The barmaid put her arm around her and said welcome to the team !
After a 15 minute discussion, the head chef wanted to see her do light prepping as you might needed to helping the chef from time to time. The lady picked up the sack of potatoes like she Hercules, and she just peeled the spuds like there was no tomorrow. She was hired on the spot.
Working in hospitality is not easy, wages are minimum unless your a bar manager or head chef. Expect to be yelled at by chefs if you are slow as they know time is money. Any food that is ruined on shifts is normally deducted from their wages. There was an occasion in my ex's pub that someone was fired on the spot for being slow and too many meals were returned.
Edwina mentions hotel jobs in general. Who actually stays in hotels near Christmas time ? Manchester is not like NYC
at Christmas. People normally go the hotels after Christmas in the UK when things open up especially in seaside towns.
The only time Edwina stayed in hotels was to fuck John Major or do conferences. Even then they wouldn't be 2 or 3 star hotels not for her.
Gary Neville speaks a lot of sense. Edwina Currie is the epitome of Thatcherist "on yer bike" and "I'm alright, Jack". She starts off by saying how well we're doing and she certainly seems to be doing well, seeming to be in rather luxurious surroundings and looking good for her age (soon to be 75 according to Wikipedia), though clearly using hair dye (probably applied by the little people).
Jo wrote: Gary Neville speaks a lot of sense. Edwina Currie is the epitome of Thatcherist "on yer bike" and "I'm alright, Jack". She starts off by saying how well we're doing and she certainly seems to be doing well, seeming to be in rather luxurious surroundings and looking good for her age (soon to be 75 according to Wikipedia), though clearly using hair dye (probably applied by the little people).
She is no different to any other career politician. Neither have ever lived in the real world, juggle finances.
During the first lockdown I had to close a business. I wasn't getting any help from the government. I did pay my staff with every asset that the company had left.
The older I got the more realised that material possessions become pointless. I like being a minimalist these days.
Green Man wrote: Jo wrote: Gary Neville speaks a lot of sense. Edwina Currie is the epitome of Thatcherist "on yer bike" and "I'm alright, Jack". She starts off by saying how well we're doing and she certainly seems to be doing well, seeming to be in rather luxurious surroundings and looking good for her age (soon to be 75 according to Wikipedia), though clearly using hair dye (probably applied by the little people).
She is no different to any other career politician. Neither have ever lived in the real world, juggle finances.
During the first lockdown I had to close a business. I wasn't getting any help from the government. I did pay my staff with every asset that the company had left.
The older I got the more realised that material possessions become pointless. I like being a minimalist these days.
So many politicians get on the Public Purse Gravy Train and forget how bloody tough it is out there.
As I now live in Bondi I see the effects on small business of a Lock Down- dozens of small restaurants and coffee shops go to the wall never to re-open. They were a source of jobs for local youth and visiting backpackers (an industry in itself worth $Billions gone to the wall..will take years to come back).
hedda wrote: Green Man wrote: Jo wrote: Gary Neville speaks a lot of sense. Edwina Currie is the epitome of Thatcherist "on yer bike" and "I'm alright, Jack". She starts off by saying how well we're doing and she certainly seems to be doing well, seeming to be in rather luxurious surroundings and looking good for her age (soon to be 75 according to Wikipedia), though clearly using hair dye (probably applied by the little people).
She is no different to any other career politician. Neither have ever lived in the real world, juggle finances.
During the first lockdown I had to close a business. I wasn't getting any help from the government. I did pay my staff with every asset that the company had left.
The older I got the more realised that material possessions become pointless. I like being a minimalist these days.
So many politicians get on the Public Purse Gravy Train and forget how bloody tough it is out there.
As I now live in Bondi I see the effects on small business of a Lock Down- dozens of small restaurants and coffee shops go to the wall never to re-open. They were a source of jobs for local youth and visiting backpackers (an industry in itself worth $Billions gone to the wall..will take years to come back).
## It's a good time to be old (and look young)
I was in Hampshire just after this years lockdown. I saw the MP Kit Malthouse in a back of a limo with an entourage, whilst small shops were trading properly there was still a huge number that have now closed for good. A few market traders saw Malthouse and they gave him V sign and a few jeers.
When I drive around market towns they are now all the same. The towns are mainly filled independent coffee shops but there's a Costa or a Subway bang in the middle of the the smaller cafes. (So again the big guys will win and take away small local businesses) I always go to the independent's for coffee and lunch. When they do loyalty schemes it's a bonus.
I take my wife to work at times - she loves to do shopping in charity shops or women's clothes shops, whilst I deliver booze to the shops and restaurants. She has good eye for bargains and she gets my clothes from them also, I don't see the point wearing anything expensive for my job.
As long I am presentable and wearing some that is smart causal. I do go to high end and posh establishments also for my work. I don't want to dress or look like a builder, I never have done for work anywhere.
I always have a tie (Ted Baker) in the glove box if it's needed.
I never understood "There's plenty of work out there" statement from MP's. I haven't been passed or been in any restaurant, hotel, bar, shop/supermarket or even a fast food joint advertising within the last year or so. My friends own small businesses and they do employ people however they are not taking on.
It takes years to become a doctor/nurse/dentist/vet and farmers want the cheap documented labour from Europe. They don't want people from the Job Centre as they know they won't work as hard, will probably be more interested in the breaks than picking crops.
There are people putting their names forward for HGV but DVLA have a backlog due to industrial action.
hedda wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Jo wrote:
## It's a good time to be old (and look young)
Globally the old owe a huge debt to the young for putting up with lockdowns and ruined opportunities. I hope they remember this. I would suggest (only half tounge in cheek...) a fund is set up to create opportunities for the young and address their damaged mental health. Anyone 70 plus must pay into it *
Wyot wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote: Jo wrote:
## It's a good time to be old (and look young)
Globally the old owe a huge debt to the young for putting up with lockdowns and ruined opportunities. I hope they remember this. I would suggest (only half tounge in cheek...) a fund is set up to create opportunities for the young and address their damaged mental health. Anyone 70 plus must pay into it *
* Please not run by our current Government...
It all could be avoided if the government, WEF, Fauchi, Gates, media news and Bilderberg Group didn't create mass hysteria. If Wuhan wasn't creating viruses 'playing God' and then leaking viruses to the public we wouldn't have masses of debt and businesses clinging on by their fingernails.
A lot of councils have scrapped fireworks displays; the event where they book some B list or Z list celebrity, that only a small number of people will know to switch on the Christmas lights.
Some one(s) is getting rich still of what is left of the pandemic but it's not Joe Public.
No matter who you vote for Wyot the Establishment still gets in.
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Jo wrote:
No matter who you vote for Wyot the Establishment still gets in.
The Establishment is always in; it sits at a remove from democratic accountability. If I ever see a reason to vote for someone again it will be because I notice decency, integrity, they don't patronise me and I think that around the margins of the inevitable Establishment agenda they may do some good.
If Ken Clarke had become Tory leader I would have voted blue; I voted for Corbyn. Currently, they are a un worthy of my serious attention!
Wyot wrote: If Ken Clarke had become Tory leader I would have voted blue; I voted for Corbyn.
For two gentlemen with massively different and contrasting philosophies on almost every aspect of life, including politicsand economics?
Both extremely competent, committed and innovative - believing in their causes. But it would be hard to think of more diametrically opposed modern politicians.
Vertrude wrote: Wyot wrote: If Ken Clarke had become Tory leader I would have voted blue; I voted for Corbyn.
For two gentlemen with massively different and contrasting philosophies on almost every aspect of life, including politicsand economics?
Both extremely competent, committed and innovative - believing in their causes. But it would be hard to think of more diametrically opposed modern politicians.
Diametrically opposed perhaps but within a very narrow range, in my view Vertrude. They aren't so far apart; The Establishment would never allow that.
Wyot wrote: Vertrude wrote: Wyot wrote: If Ken Clarke had become Tory leader I would have voted blue; I voted for Corbyn.
For two gentlemen with massively different and contrasting philosophies on almost every aspect of life, including politicsand economics?
Both extremely competent, committed and innovative - believing in their causes. But it would be hard to think of more diametrically opposed modern politicians.
Diametrically opposed perhaps but within a very narrow range, in my view Vertrude. They aren't so far apart; The Establishment would never allow that.
Borris only got in because of his sloan "Lets get Brexit Down" and his double decker bus with the posters about money for the NHS on the sides. Borris has never cared or even thought about the working class people. No PM has actually has done. Boris only cares about Boris - Kier only cares about Kier.
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