I'm a fan of vaccines. Have taken the flu jab for 20 years - I've still got flu a couple of times (once when a different strain arrived) but each time it's been a mild 24 hours, not the usual 4-5 days. I go for my 6th Covid jab next week. But I insist it's Pfizer - or Moderna - NOT A-Z.
This is because it was revealed (before my first jab) that A-Z had not been tested on anybody over 60.
Since we are (and were) the main vulnerable group, I found this frightening.
Even more so as I believed (and still do) that the Covid panic had been inflated by the media (better story) and followed by stupid governments (except Sweden) and stupid experts as a "killer plague" for everyone and not as a new variant of Coronavirus, harmless to most (like flu) but lethal to certain groups (the elderly).
The result in that "believing the media" was panic and a rush to find a vaccine without due diligence. It was more important to be FIRST than to be safe.
One problem is nobody seemed to look at the variant properly (especially Long Covid - not easily examined when it was so new).
Another was not testing it on the vulnerable. Rushing it through to gain brownie points for stupid Governments and stupid Experts (none more stupid, nor more media controlled, than the UK).
We now find the A-Z Oxford vaccine has been killing people!

www.kingofhits.co.uk/component/option,co...,64/?g2_itemId=14905

Don't be a junkie.

I will never forgive or forget.

I always prefer forgive if you can but never forget what needs to be learned.

As we wait for our mobile emergency alerts today how could this potentially useful technology be abused? What media led panic of the future could see our freedoms needlessly interfered with, our suggestible psychology manipulated, as it was during the Great Panic?

I propose - after our phones cease vibrating at 3pm - a minutes silence to reflect on this, and honour the memories of those who lost their lives - and those still yet to - as a result of the Great Panic.

Lest we forget.

Wyot wrote:
I always prefer forgive if you can but never forget what needs to be learned.

As we wait for our mobile emergency alerts today how could this potentially useful technology be abused? What media led panic of the future could see our freedoms needlessly interfered with, our suggestible psychology manipulated, as it was during the Great Panic?

I propose - after our phones cease vibrating at 3pm - a minutes silence to reflect on this, and honour the memories of those who lost their lives - and those still yet to - as a result of the Great Panic.

Lest we forget.

My partner turned that silly alert off and I don't even own a smartphone.


I'm Irish, so we hold grudges.

Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:


Lest we forget.

My partner turned that silly alert off and I don't even own a smartphone.



But don't you guys want to know you have 2 mins to get from your house to your home made nuclear bunker in the woods, just north of the badger traps but east of the road kill salt hills?

Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:


Lest we forget.

My partner turned that silly alert off and I don't even own a smartphone.



But don't you guys want to know you have 2 mins to get from your house to your home made nuclear bunker in the woods, just north of the badger traps but east of the road kill salt hills?

What's the point where we are all going to die soon? when the banks shutdown in 2030 and CBDC rolls in.

rumble.com/v2cbuzc-jag-sentences-janssen...llyer-to-death..html


dainikbidyaloy.com/2023/03/13/truth-rich...ist-hanged-at-gitmo/

Another reason why I wont forgive or forget.

So if the government didn't fire approx 40,000 care staff who didn't want to take the jab. Then maybe there wouldn't be a loophole?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315241...ancies.html#comments

thecareruk.com/petition-to-apologise-rei...-by-vaccine-mandate/

The internet never forgets.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046434...-vaccine-U-turn.html

www.irwinmitchell.com/news-and-insights/...taff-wont-be-vaccina

It never made any sense.

Why not just test the workers in social care weekly who don't wish to take the vaccine? Lot cheaper than losing 40 000 plus health care staff.

And even then, vaccines protect those who contract Covid from the most severe effects, rather than particularly limit the spread.

God knows what it was all about - but it wasn't healthcare.

Wyot wrote:
It never made any sense.

Why not just test the workers in social care weekly who don't wish to take the vaccine? Lot cheaper than losing 40 000 plus health care staff.

And even then, vaccines protect those who contract Covid from the most severe effects, rather than particularly limit the spread.

God knows what it was all about - but it wasn't healthcare.

You know that logical thinking is dangerous Wyot. People will think you are a "right wing loon conspiracy theorist". That what Hedda called me, turned out I was right though. So I get the last laugh!

Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
It never made any sense.

Why not just test the workers in social care weekly who don't wish to take the vaccine? Lot cheaper than losing 40 000 plus health care staff.

And even then, vaccines protect those who contract Covid from the most severe effects, rather than particularly limit the spread.

God knows what it was all about - but it wasn't healthcare.

You know that logical thinking is dangerous Wyot. People will think you are a "right wing loon conspiracy theorist". That what Hedda called me, turned out I was right though. So I get the last laugh!

We agreed on the over reaction for sure GM but I don't agree with the anti-vax stuff.

Vaccinations are great for mankind and until I see any credible proof there was a plot behind vaccinations I will assume all of that is bollocks.

Though I do think perhaps the covid vax was rushed through, and there are risks in that.

As I said at the start of this (ten months ago) I'm PRO vax but was very disturbed that the AZ vax was not tested on the over 60s. That seemed odd to me (I've taken Pfizer/Moderna). It implied Government urging the company to approve fast, whether or not it was safe. I may be wrong and I'm no conspiracy theorist but personally it was NO to AZ for me and YES to Pfizer and Moderna.

I had AZ and Moderna - so we will have to see if one half of me packs in...

I stopped at two and am unpersuaded given my health and age to have any more in the next few years...