I think it is positive that Hunt will cut benefits (with safeguards for children or vulnerable) for those who are able but refuse to work.

What a lot on the "left" don't factor in is how damaging it is for young people in particular to sit on their lazy arses all day, and expect others to look after them.

It reduces them to a state of perpetual infantalisation.

Hunt is helping these individuals as well as stopping them leeching from the rest of us.

Aside: this is a vote winner which affects those who can't be bothered voting; so I preduct no objections from the empty vessel Starmer.

Wyot wrote:
I think it is positive that Hunt will cut benefits (with safeguards for children or vulnerable) for those who are able but refuse to work.

What a lot on the "left" don't factor in is how damaging it is for young people in particular to sit on their lazy arses all day, and expect others to look after them.

It reduces them to a state of perpetual infantalisation.

Hunt is helping these individuals as well as stopping them leeching from the rest of us.

Aside: this is a vote winner which affects those who can't be bothered voting; so I preduct no objections from the empty vessel Starmer.

Like I have said in the past those with long term illnesses and the people care for them should be left alone. Anyone else should be doing something even if it's litter picking or planting trees.

I wish people stop getting grieving and depression mixed up.
Losing a loved one or friend is very hard but it won't cause manic depression, just a lot of sadness for a brief period.
When my pal Tubs died, I cried, grieved, mourned and then took a 2 week holiday in Norway to recover.

When my parents, I did the same except going to Norway.

I reckon you are born with depression due to chemicals in the brain. I don't get why people get signed for anxiety.

People of working-age get benefits payments of £1 in every £8 that the government spends. Around £100 billion a year. This is in addition to the £120 billion paid every year to those others who don't work - some pensioners.

Tim Simpson wrote:
People of working-age get benefits payments of £1 in every £8 that the government spends. Around £100 billion a year. This is in addition to the £120 billion paid every year to those others who don't work - some pensioners.

Hi Barney.

So you want to get a reaction from "Wyot" do you today to this deliberately idiotic comparison?

If you are a pensioner I would do some voluntary work. Not because I mind paying towards your pension; but it will do you good mate...

This idea that you don't get benefits unless you are actively seeking work has been going on for at least 2 decades. I spent about a month on job seekers allowance about 4 years ago, when I was between contracts. The Job Centre make it as hostile as they can for you to apply for it. The centres are full of burly bodyguards and the staff generally have a serious attitude problem. They should remember that this is Insurance money that we have paid in via Natinoal insurance.
Even 20 years ago, you had to record details of jobs that you have applied for. This is all a load of bollox, employers aren't going to go out of their way to recruit people who don't want to work.

Tim Simpson wrote:
People of working-age get benefits payments of £1 in every £8 that the government spends. Around £100 billion a year. This is in addition to the £120 billion paid every year to those others who don't work - some pensioners.

Pensioners paid in.

However I like to know how much the Tories pissed away on PPE and nightingale hospitals not forgetting Ukraine.

robbiex wrote:
This is all a load of bollox, employers aren't going to go out of their way to recruit people who don't want to work.

There would be a lot less such people if we had a system that didn't so readily allow unemployment as a tax-payer funded lifestyle choice. This is profoundly different to having a "safety net" - which most people are unequivocally in favour of.

Most people don't want to work most days; but do so anyway. To make them then fund those that are able to work but choose to take money from those who do so instead as a lifestyle choice, is toxic to society and the able-unemployed themselves.

Anyone who finds themselves "between jobs", though, should be treated with respect by the system. They have paid in and are entitled both to assistance and dignity.

The government need to make the work shy work or get trained in something. There needs to be a scheme for adult apprenticeships.

If I could afford it I love to get a drivers mate to help with deliveries and a salesman to go round pitching wine to small retailers.