Watching Part One of this excellent ITV series made me realise - exactly the same thing happened to me 24 years ago and has happened to thousands since. False Allegations, the crime of the century, with hundreds benefitting - bent cops who got promotion or budget increases or kudos - bent lawyers who made fortunes - bent accusers (some genuinely deluded but the majority deliberately lying or at least exaggerating). And worst of all - the media encouraging people to commit the crime of attempting to pervert the course of justice.

So perhaps Toby Jones (one of my guilty pleasures - wonderful actor, as was his father) was right. Somebody should organise a small meeting in a church hall somewhere and see if we can get a few dozen together to change this appalling situation.

What do you think? Should Mr King become Mr Bates?
Or Master Bates?

I don't think the media will support it. They did encouraged people to make shit up.

However Andrew Malkinson, needs to be an ambassador. I still don't know how the CPS and government etc. Are going to give him 20 years back?

Leveson 2 would have revealed police malfeasance and corruption while hand in hand with the ghastly media.

A pox on David Cameron for not following through.

Having now watched all 4 parts (it's great) I really do begin to think perhaps I should take a leaf from Mr Bates' book. He was NOT a figurehead (as I clearly could not be - until and unless my wrongful conviction is quashed) but he galvanised the monement and would not give up.

JK2006 wrote:
Having now watched all 4 parts (it's great) I really do begin to think perhaps I should take a leaf from Mr Bates' book. He was NOT a figurehead (as I clearly could not be - until and unless my wrongful conviction is quashed) but he galvanised the monement and would not give up.

Not forgetting a Genesis fan or was that for the TV programme?

So the question is - should I try to galvanise all the existing (and often brilliant but tiny) organisations like FACT and EmpoweringTheInnocent to hold one giant meeting, somewhere central like Birmingham, to try to get hundreds to attend in order to get the media interested in this scandalous, appalling situation? Linked with, I suggest, those suffering (or who have suffered in the past) those iniquitous IPP and Joint Venture tragedies? Surely attendance would dwarf the early Post Office scandals? Even the media - which currently adores False Allegations as giving them clickbait (or sales, as we used to call it) might sit up and pay attention. I think we might even get past victims like Cliff, Gambo, Nigel Evans and others to attend. Andrew Malkinson and Brian Buckle would surely speak?

Thoughts?

For youngsters, us Oldies first became aware of Freddie Jones (Toby's dad) when he played Claudius brilliantly in an ITV series in the 1960s.

Latest - police investigate FRAUD. But why does it take a TV show to highlight this? I gather charges of Attempting to Pervert andPerjury may soon happen but why so long? And why does media keep calling the Post Office fiasco "the worst miscarriage of justice in British history"??? The False Allegations Industry has been FAR larger, far more lethal, far more widespread. Oh, I suppose because only a tiny percentage have been exposed. That's alright then. NO IT IS NOT!!!

I think our criminal justice system has become in many areas concerningly divorced from concepts such as due process, blind justice and guilty until proven innocent.

It needs lifting out of the bog of media and political concerns; not only in the selection of prosecutions, but in sentencing.

IPPS are the most cruel and unjustifiable example of this in recent years, and it was shameful that the Government decided recently not to (effectively) release the remaining prisoners through re-sentencing.

There is also a problem with the concept of the victim that urgently needs addressing. You will be believed and even the language of victim, does not procedurally or semantically allow for malicious or deluded allegations.

I think that campaign groups - as you suggest JK - should align. Focus. A disparate approach can only ever lead to small gains in particular areas.

But it is the whole system that needs to renew its vows with the core principals - fought for not just currently but since Magna Carta - of justice.

Until fundamentals are addressed one gain will be followed by something new arising from an unprincipled system.

JK2006 wrote:
Latest - police investigate FRAUD. But why does it take a TV show to highlight this? I gather charges of Attempting to Pervert andPerjury may soon happen but why so long? And why does media keep calling the Post Office fiasco "the worst miscarriage of justice in British history"??? The False Allegations Industry has been FAR larger, far more lethal, far more widespread. Oh, I suppose because only a tiny percentage have been exposed. That's alright then. NO IT IS NOT!!!


Both the Post Office and false allegations are vile. The courts are now on the Post Office bandwagon, yes the Post Office Sub-post Masters need compensation and their names cleared. The Met are on the bandwagon again I see.

I like to know how the government are going to Andrew Malkinson his 20 years back!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67899189

Sadly I think the lesson here is whatever you do will be ignored thanks to mass apathy unless you can turn your and others awful experience into a four part drama starring an excellent lead actor and get it run on TV after a future Christmas holiday…

Yes sadly I was missing the excellent actor when I tried 16 years ago with Vile Pervert; The musical - mind you that's now had over 5 million views. But seems to have done nothing.

www.VilePervert.com

Surely any mass victims' meeting in BIRMINGHAM, or elsewhere, most include MOJO?

mojoscotland.org/miscarriage-of-justice-...ved-living-expenses/

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