I'm not sure, at our age, I'd want any "treatment" - certainly NOT chemo.

My late friend who died from prostate cancer, had this debate. He was only his 50s. He said said he had good life but didn't want the all drugs and all the nasty side effects. My father looked more ill and at death's door when had treatment his prostate cancer in the very early 90s. Tubs mentioned my father a few times. My uncle had the cancer also but decided to carry on as normal. Tubs died in his sleep, and was scattered in the between Scotland and Norway.

I wish him all the best and a good recovery. Treatment or not is such a difficult call in many cases.

Got to respect Tubs - he clearly lived life on his own terms.

I've always liked Charles and felt he handled his very difficult life very well. All those who say "Royal? Wealth? What's difficult?" I answer "the worst thing of all; not being able to do what you want with your life". It's why I sympathise with Harry.

JK2006 wrote:
I've always liked Charles and felt he handled his very difficult life very well. All those who say "Royal? Wealth? What's difficult?" I answer "the worst thing of all; not being able to do what you want with your life". It's why I sympathise with Harry.

Lady luck was not smiling on them when they were born into that family...

Wyot wrote:
I wish him all the best and a good recovery. Treatment or not is such a difficult call in many cases.

Got to respect Tubs - he clearly lived life on his own terms.

Very much so. However his outrage in the restaurant when he insulted people scared me and it was embarrassing. It was shock a to him also. I don't go that restaurant now.

I think Tubs prostate cancer was down to lack of exercise and having poor diet, he wouldn't order one KFC family bucket it had to be 2, he rather go for pints than have a glass of wine, even if we were drinking wine. When were fishing he rather sit on the bank than stand up. Hiking was something he didn't get in to unless it was a hunt.

His brothers go for check-ups they are fine so far, then again they are fitter and don't really eat junk food.

I think cancer runs in the family, however being in the only male sibling it's hard to tell. I only have shit load of sisters. One has pre-cancerous cells in the birthing area, another needs regular screenings on the milk jugs. My mother died from a broken heart, so we don't know if she had anything.

When should remember that the stats were quite low for cancer, now it's in one in two.

www.newscientist.com/article/dn26912-new...-scarier-than-it-is/

Hopefully Charles can push for mandatory screenings, then again it's impossible to see a GP. I think GPs should do regular bollock checks like they do for women. Who need to go for regular cervical smear tests. Prostate checks should be a lower age, cancer does not care about age!

Only 3 to 10 cancers - out of 100 - are thought to be caused by faulty genes. The main reasons are aging, being overweight, bad diet, smoking and not having enough exercise.

Wyot wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I've always liked Charles and felt he handled his very difficult life very well. All those who say "Royal? Wealth? What's difficult?" I answer "the worst thing of all; not being able to do what you want with your life". It's why I sympathise with Harry.

Lady luck was not smiling on them when they were born into that family...

Diana was a country girl. They go weak at the knees watching Dukes of Hazard, witnessing farmers tans, watching topless farm boys, looking at farmers in tractors (even if he is dressed) and of course polo players. Town girls go weak seeing pool cleaners and men with wads of cash.

Surrey girls go weak, when they see Wyot in Waitrose.

Why is he not on the VERY long NHS waiting list, or in an ambulance full car-park unable to even get into desperately overcrowded A & E?

God Save the NHS (contracted-out jobs for the Tories won't).

Current F.B. meme, "'More Tory Cuts'...the poorly educated can't even spell now."

Whole Truth (not Barmy) wrote:
Why is he not on the VERY long NHS waiting list, or in an ambulance full car-park unable to even get into desperately overcrowded A & E?

God Save the NHS (contracted-out jobs for the Tories won't).

Current F.B. meme, "'More Tory Cuts'...the poorly educated can't even spell now."

Damned he does, damned he don't.

If he used the NHS, people will complain about their income tax and bed blocking. People will go private if they can afford to. He is still a human FFS.

I use to go privately and get private hospital treatment in Canada...cost a fucking fortune but I got the best!

JK2006 wrote:
I'm not sure, at our age, I'd want any "treatment" - certainly NOT chemo.

chemo is not that bad..it's the long hours you sit a chair as the process happens.

prostrate cancer is almost always cured.

Liver cancer is the deadly one..my dear best friend died of it 5 years but thankfully went out on a morphine haze.

hedda wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I'm not sure, at our age, I'd want any "treatment" - certainly NOT chemo.

chemo is not that bad..it's the long hours you sit a chair as the process happens.

prostrate cancer is almost always cured.

Liver cancer is the deadly one..my dear best friend died of it 5 years but thankfully went out on a morphine haze.

Sitting on a chair on a drip for hours sounds boring. No wonder Tubs refused it and he told the doctors to give the medince to a kid. I'm intrigued but what is there to live for in this day in age?

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Hopefully Charles can push for mandatory screenings, then again it's impossible to see a GP. I think GPs should do regular bollock checks like they do for women. Who need to go for regular cervical smear tests. Prostate checks should be a lower age, cancer does not care about age!
A member of my family was recently diagnosed (after referral to A&E by a nurse at her local NHS group practice) with incurable bowel/liver cancer after being told a couple of years ago by a nurse (nurses being the first and sometimes only port of call at this group practice that has 13 GPs) that her rectal bleeding was probably just a haemorrhoid, then told in a rare audience with a GP that it might be cancer but that he wasn't going to examine her or refer her for further investigation as it would be unpleasant. And no GP from the practice has deigned to make contact since the diagnosis. Would royalty have to settle for that? I doubt it.

And now these photos in the news of people queuing round the block to try to sign up as NHS patients with a new dental surgery. You'd think it was a third-world country. I was just reading recently about the creation of the NHS in 1948, when there apparently were dental vans touring around. Imagine that luxury now!

If people can't even see a dentist, where does that leave preventative cancer screening?

It's surely time to cut the meaningless "vote Brexit and we'll spend 350 million a week on our NHS" (not, hehe, as if) /"save our NHS"/"clap our NHS" crap and design a system fit for a supposedly first-world country (and not just for its millionnaire, billionnaire and Old Etonian population).

And now these photos in the news of people queuing round the block to try to sign up as NHS patients with a new dental surgery. You'd think it was a third-world country

Isn't that racist?

In America a lot dental care is free, for the lower classes there are pop-up marquees that people can go to. I am not sure it's free or donations but the Americans care about their smile and teeth. Not getting a dentist will a be a shock to them.

I did a lot of teeth grinding during the night when I was younger. This was due stress from prison, work, a string of crap relationships. I have an overlap which I didn't treated, but it has gotten worse over the years. I was quoted over £15k to have it all done. I am still looking for a new vehicle, no such thing as a cheap runner these days.

Over the lockdowns, GPs were telling patients to ask their friends and hairdressers to check moles. GPs wanted to photos of moles or injuries sent over the phone or Skype. Cancer is no longer rare!

Eugenics is working.

Sorry about your friend Jo!!

When, I had the prostate checked, it wasn't the nice, the female GP got on with it and told me to hum a song.

End of the Line (It's All Right), by Travelling Wilburys was very apt.