I'm no expert on War or military history etc but anyone else get the sense that warfare is changing? We have all these bombardments into Ukraine that kill 1 person and a dog and 300 missiles from Iran all dealt with, albeit with a warning they were coming.

Young men aren't willing to fight and die for politicians in this cynical age. Russian and Ukranian men desert battlefields. Great really, unless it puts pressure on the nuclear option. But surely no state is that insane?

Ah WYOT these days life is virtual. Which has advantages and disadvantages. WW3 will have no physical human casualties but billions online.

JK2006 wrote:
Ah WYOT these days life is virtual. Which has advantages and disadvantages. WW3 will have no physical human casualties but billions online.

I suspect you are broadly correct.

And if as we are told by many (not sure I entirely buy it) that all war is about money. Then great. There can be perpetual physical war everywhere with some making billions from missiles others shields/defence. They can just neutralise one another; a state of fissile equilibrium will unfold.

We will all get used to fireworks going off above us all the time as they rake the money in, but otherwise shrug it off. With the advance of bitcoin the money boys can eventually take their toys into a virtual world, and the sound of bird song will again be heard on Earth.

Everyone happy.

Seems in Oz there is going to be a civil war. I am sure Eurovision will have a kick off and the UK can go either way.

Fuck knows who the boat people are and the police are powerless. Even the MPs are either scared to challenge the problem or they are making a fortune.

news.sky.com/story/sydney-bishop-among-s...rch-service-13115918

www.mi5.gov.uk/history/mi5-in-the-1990s-...ist-terrorist-threat

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330538...it-Malmo-mosque.html

Wyot wrote:
[quote]JK2006 wrote:

And if as we are told by many (not sure I entirely buy it) that all war is about money.

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pretty sure it's the main factor.

The one glaring obscenity is that all wars seem to be started by people who will never have to fight them so I applaud young men who avoid fighting.

hedda wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
JK2006 wrote:

And if as we are told by many (not sure I entirely buy it) that all war is about money.

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pretty sure it's the main factor.

The one glaring obscenity is that all wars seem to be started by people who will never have to fight them so I applaud young men who avoid fighting.

BLM activists will kneel down and say "ALL LIVES MATTER" if they get called up.

hedda wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]JK2006 wrote:



The one glaring obscenity is that all wars seem to be started by people who will never have to fight them so I applaud young men who avoid fighting.

I think the only amusing aspect - if there is wider conflict - will be seeing attempts at conscription. I think most young people will tell their countries where to go; and more power to them.

As an aside, it made me smile that as Israel launches a gesture missile at Israel, the article is not even in the top 10 most read on BBC news.

Top spot Taylor Swift album.

Iran WYOT dear; Iran. Hate to be a pedant but...

JK2006 wrote:
Iran WYOT dear; Iran. Hate to be a pedant but...

Of course dear boy! Early post...

Wyot wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
JK2006 wrote:



The one glaring obscenity is that all wars seem to be started by people who will never have to fight them so I applaud young men who avoid fighting.

I think the only amusing aspect - if there is wider conflict - will be seeing attempts at conscription. I think most young people will tell their countries where to go; and more power to them.

As an aside, it made me smile that as Israel launches a gesture missile at Israel, the article is not even in the top 10 most read on BBC news.

Top spot Taylor Swift album.

it wouldn't be the first time celebs have been used to push conscription. If you watch the early Abbott and Costello movies with the Andrews Sisters they are pretty much recruitment films.

So Starmer put the UK in WW3. Looks like Trump won't get his second term and Harris will punching in the nuclear codes by mid-December.

The war had nothing to do with the rest of Europe or the world apart from the rich globalists washing money in Ukraine.

www.politico.eu/article/uk-keir-starmer-...sile-hit-russia-war/

economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/intern...5550445.cms?from=mdr

Green Man wrote:
So Starmer put the UK in WW3. Looks like Trump won't get his second term and Harris will punching in the nuclear codes by mid-December.

The war had nothing to do with the rest of Europe or the world apart from the rich globalists washing money in Ukraine.

www.politico.eu/article/uk-keir-starmer-...sile-hit-russia-war/

economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/intern...5550445.cms?from=mdr

But how could anyone continue to make money or hold power if they go nuclear...

Continuing the theme of this thread these missiles don't even seem to do much. I think they have all just been shot down. Not sure what the point of it all is...

Hard to imagine what an actual war with Russia would look like outside of us all getting blown up. Try conscription. Hilarious...

My ankles won't get passed the few days of basic training I am approaching my late 50s now.

The boat people probably have good knowledge of the military.

The elite do have underground bunkers. Zuckerburg has an underground bunker that runs for miles and miles underground.

Who knows someone might have something that goes to the centre of the earth.

We are told numerous times that we are useless humans and in the way.

When Sky News saw the exit polls of Starmer they were creaming their knickers and got very orgasmic and aroused. They are very silent on their left-wing views now.

Putyin is not insane. He can be negotiated with. Zelensky wants bigger missiles...then wants even bigger missiles to combat bigger missiles. You can see where this is heading. Negotiation is needed desperately. Biden has misread this war as he has Israel/Gaza. Starmer just nods.

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:
Wyot wrote:
JK2006 wrote:



The one glaring obscenity is that all wars seem to be started by people who will never have to fight them so I applaud young men who avoid fighting.

I think the only amusing aspect - if there is wider conflict - will be seeing attempts at conscription. I think most young people will tell their countries where to go; and more power to them.

As an aside, it made me smile that as Israel launches a gesture missile at Israel, the article is not even in the top 10 most read on BBC news.

Top spot Taylor Swift album.

it wouldn't be the first time celebs have been used to push conscription. If you watch the early Abbott and Costello movies with the Andrews Sisters they are pretty much recruitment films. As well as being about as funny as a hernia. Hated Abbott and Costello. The very poor mans Laurel and Hardy.

Hearing an informed commentator on radio last night state that Putin was a very emotional man who acted on emotion was deeply troubling indeed. Such people can often act irrationally and on impulse. Not what you need with someone with the ability to cause such deadly mayhem. Another highly emotional national leader was Hitler, no need to spell him out. Yet the Democrats in America have recently been denigrating Trump as a potential Hitler while not seeming to notice that Putin is showing alarming parallels in practice and implementation right now as they provide funds, ammo and hardware to fight him.

Rich wrote:
Hearing an informed commentator on radio last night state that Putin was a very emotional man who acted on emotion was deeply troubling indeed. Such people can often act irrationally and on impulse. Not what you need with someone with the ability to cause such deadly mayhem. Another highly emotional national leader was Hitler, no need to spell him out. Yet the Democrats in America have recently been denigrating Trump as a potential Hitler while not seeming to notice that Putin is showing alarming parallels in practice and implementation right now as they provide funds, ammo and hardware to fight him.

It makes you wonder if the Dems and other evil people from the elite are doing what they can not to make Trump president. No one can change over if there is a war going on.

Starmer had a cosy chat and wrote out cheques with Blackrock yesterday when the shit was hitting the fan in Russia. I have read numerous articles about Putin wanting to put a stop to this conflict, Zelensky and Nato don't want to know.

Green Man - Even if World War III was well into its stride on January 20th there is no chance that Biden or Harris would be sticking around to direct their part in it. Trump's coming and only his health or an assassin will stop that.

Perhaps we already are in World War III, a bit like the phoney war in WWII that lasted months after the official start date. If things do kick off then just who is deciding the official start date of World War III, what is the official trigger point in action, one single nuclear device, however tiny or tactical? But what about if conventional?

There was a story a year or two ago at the start of the Ukraine situation when it was being suggested that Putin might drop a nuclear warhead into the middle of the North Sea to send a powerful message to us. But even if he sent just one single conventional missile from Russia that landed in an open field in Oxfordshire and hurt nothing but a few squirrels this country would have to take drastic action in return you'd think and article 5 of NATO would be enacted. Starmer under pressure like that would be a real eye opener. I could well imagine that man driving this country to catastophe, probably by incompetence and miscalculation rather than design.

Even if nobody really wants WW3, one wrong move could cause it. It's a bit surprising there are not more mass protests going on the streets about the situation.

Who knew that one day we might really face World War III because one part of the old Soviet Union was arguing with another part of the old Soviet Union. It wasn't quite supposed to be like that!

Zelensky is a bigger threat than Putin in my book. He now wants the West to directly confront Russia with ballistic missiles. He seems terribly unconcerned about other NATO countries. I myself will not forget how he cuddled up to Netanyahu.