It tried to be like the Jerry Springer Show which scripted like pro-wrestling and any stage play. The guests were actors from local acting societies or from adult films.The audience were fired up when the taping start, even they knew it was entertainment. Or if there was a backstory that was true the producer's would flip the truth on it's head.

Jeremy Kyle was the show for viewers to feel better about themselves. I wonder if it played like this inside people's heads? "My wife left me for her boss, I have been sacked, my daughter is now a crack-head whore and my son has joined a cult and is into drug running...but at least I am not on the Jeremy Kyle Show"

I hated seeing the short bloke get in people's faces whilst he had meatheads around him, when he got it back he ordered them to be removed from the studio. I know 2 people who went on the Kyle Show and they regretted it, they had a lot of issues. They were giving the film star treatment to and from the hotel and giving free booze, the producers would give them directions on how to act. They just wanted counselling and guidance, which they couldn't afford; not to be insulted. When 2 brothers got on there, which I knew from the past.

I was shocked, the woman who played them was the well-known local bike. I thought the brothers had more sense than not to be banging her. She would do anything for ciggies and lager.

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It's the same as watching Gladiatorial contests in the Colloseum, or Christians thrown to the lions. Now we see people piling in on social media. We can be an insecure and cruel species; as well as a joyous and loving one.

Wyot wrote:
It's the same as watching Gladiatorial contests in the Colloseum, or Christians thrown to the lions. Now we see people piling in on social media. We can be an insecure and cruel species; as well as a joyous and loving one.

Joyous and loving? Are you on drugs on mind-bending drugs Wyot? We are worst things on the planet.

We are only here because due to our randy parents, in some some cases some twat of a bloke forced himself on some poor woman.

I am more surprised at Green Man knowing real life Jeremy Kyle guests, than if he said he knew Martians.

Springer was very likeable and I quite like Kyle's push-bike videos on X as he rants and fumes in the London traffic.

Hedda wrote:
Springer was very likeable and I quite like Kyle's push-bike videos on X as he rants and fumes in the London traffic.

I think that might be Jeremy Vine?

Rather nicely put Honey and Hedda may have been intentionally joking.

I do know a family that went on the show (not on a normal type episode mind) and they had nothing but praise for the producers and staff for not just the care they got before and during filming but after as well. When the family's daughter died not long after filming, the production team even got back in touch with them to help them as much as they could. They did go over and beyond.

Honey wrote:
I am more surprised at Green Man knowing real life Jeremy Kyle guests, than if he said he knew Martians.

Never met a Martian but I do believe in them though...a long story.

steveimp wrote:
I do know a family that went on the show (not on a normal type episode mind) and they had nothing but praise for the producers and staff for not just the care they got before and during filming but after as well. When the family's daughter died not long after filming, the production team even got back in touch with them to help them as much as they could. They did go over and beyond.

That is interesting, they could do well if they wanted but they should have stuck with that. The couple I knew had a of issues, that could have been dealt with off-screen, with a councillor not on camera.

The brothers who I knew go back to when I was a kid. Some people do not grow up, fighting over some girl is what hormonal teens do, not full grown adults.

A work colleague asked me to go along with them to a taping of the Kyle Show back in 2009 and I really didn't want to do so at all. I'm a male nurse. She asked me because she knew I held a view on the show and thought it would change my mind. I can't recall how she got the tickets. We work in the NHS and in the mental health sphere. I ended up going to a couple of tapings and it confirmed my pre conceived idea many times over. I was revolted by the whole thing and the way the studio guests that day were treated and encouraged to act.

One of the shows involved some kind of infidelity involving about three women. None looked like they had an IQ above 100 and if they did they hid it well. None of it looked acted up. It is the worst I've ever seen human beings behave in that studio, the aggression and distress mixed with mockery, and I work in the NHS where I have encountered many of life's troubled souls and many tricky situations.

In my own job at one point I had a manager who was a vile bully, who would relish the put downs, shout at people at inappropiate moments in front of others, like creating a bad atmosphere and so much more. When I sat in that Kyle audience with my NHS colleague I saw in Kyle all the disgusting bullying traits I'd put up with for 3 years with a former NHS manager of mine not many years previous and I knew it was not pretend, it was for real with him.

The endgame of that show came as little surprise to me. I said as much to my colleague back in 2009 that one day this will end in tears. The fact it took another ten years to do so and spent 14 years abusing vulnerable and less than streetwise people and those of a certain class and place in society is damning on all who enabled this just because it pulled in enough viewers to keep the advertisers happy. I'm sure a public televised flogging of some minor offneders with a cat o nine tails would have done just the same, and certainly a public execution each morning of someone distasteful who'd been convicted of a capital crime, but we wouldn't show that with the defence it brought in the viewing numbers and neither should ITV have been allowed to effectively abuse so many people for public enjoyment over so many years, even if they consented and knew what they were sending themselves into. None of it was any defence.

I see Kyle is now on Talk TV, being a daily right wing gobby mouthpiece with not a great gift for tolerance. The only difference being he doesn't have the meat grinder of a constant supply of the vulnerable public to feed off anymore and instead has to make do with the daily news agenda in their place. It's no good Jeremy Kyle bemoaning the decline of modern Britain on that forum nowadays when he's been a major part of that decline in standards we've seen in the last 20 years, certainly in the media sphere.

Jerry Springer was a million miles away from Kyle. Springer was actually a genuinely likeable person and I read articles that said he was from those who knew him even going back to his days as an elected mayor. The shows he did on TV for his American audiences were often full of humour beneath the often hammed up chaos and fracas created. You could never say that about Kyle. There will be no Jeremy Kyle - The Musical, coming anytime soon will there.

I still feel the stench of going along to those shows just to sit and watch in the middle of the audience, completely anonymous and un noticed, even about fifteen years down the line. I wish I'd never gone, I really mean that.

Yes I think the format itself is revolting too Marcus. That they may support with the aftermath when aware of it does not take away from this, and to the cynical mind - may be done for publicity.

I'd go further and say the watcher - I mean regular not accidental such as yourself- is complicit in the abuse.

Marcus wrote:
A work colleague asked me to go along with them to a taping of the Kyle Show back in 2009 and I really didn't want to do so at all. I'm a male nurse. She asked me because she knew I held a view on the show and thought it would change my mind. I can't recall how she got the tickets. We work in the NHS and in the mental health sphere. I ended up going to a couple of tapings and it confirmed my pre conceived idea many times over. I was revolted by the whole thing and the way the studio guests that day were treated and encouraged to act.

One of the shows involved some kind of infidelity involving about three women. None looked like they had an IQ above 100 and if they did they hid it well. None of it looked acted up. It is the worst I've ever seen human beings behave in that studio, the aggression and distress mixed with mockery, and I work in the NHS where I have encountered many of life's troubled souls and many tricky situations.

In my own job at one point I had a manager who was a vile bully, who would relish the put downs, shout at people at inappropiate moments in front of others, like creating a bad atmosphere and so much more. When I sat in that Kyle audience with my NHS colleague I saw in Kyle all the disgusting bullying traits I'd put up with for 3 years with a former NHS manager of mine not many years previous and I knew it was not pretend, it was for real with him.

The endgame of that show came as little surprise to me. I said as much to my colleague back in 2009 that one day this will end in tears. The fact it took another ten years to do so and spent 14 years abusing vulnerable and less than streetwise people and those of a certain class and place in society is damning on all who enabled this just because it pulled in enough viewers to keep the advertisers happy. I'm sure a public televised flogging of some minor offneders with a cat o nine tails would have done just the same, and certainly a public execution each morning of someone distasteful who'd been convicted of a capital crime, but we wouldn't show that with the defence it brought in the viewing numbers and neither should ITV have been allowed to effectively abuse so many people for public enjoyment over so many years, even if they consented and knew what they were sending themselves into. None of it was any defence.

I see Kyle is now on Talk TV, being a daily right wing gobby mouthpiece with not a great gift for tolerance. The only difference being he doesn't have the meat grinder of a constant supply of the vulnerable public to feed off anymore and instead has to make do with the daily news agenda in their place. It's no good Jeremy Kyle bemoaning the decline of modern Britain on that forum nowadays when he's been a major part of that decline in standards we've seen in the last 20 years, certainly in the media sphere.

Jerry Springer was a million miles away from Kyle. Springer was actually a genuinely likeable person and I read articles that said he was from those who knew him even going back to his days as an elected mayor. The shows he did on TV for his American audiences were often full of humour beneath the often hammed up chaos and fracas created. You could never say that about Kyle. There will be no Jeremy Kyle - The Musical, coming anytime soon will there.

I still feel the stench of going along to those shows just to sit and watch in the middle of the audience, completely anonymous and un noticed, even about fifteen years down the line. I wish I'd never gone, I really mean that.

Tickets for studios are so easy to get online, when I lived in the States, you could write to for example NBC or pop in to the front desk and few minutes a receptionist or secruity guard would give you one if they had ticket to hand.

Saturday Night Live was always hard to get you had to be on a waiting list. David Letterman was easy to get, a friend went to a Letterman taping about 8 times. My ex worked for a charity and she got tickets for daytimes shows. It was a perk.

She went to the Trisha Show and a handful of gameshows. She left halfway through Trish. The guests were arguing when the taping ended on the premises and outside.

Either they were too rallied up or people or the show made things worse. Nearly all the arguments are about cheating or affairs.

I think ITV wanted to axe the Kyle Show but it was getting viewers and ad-revenue. They needed a death to put the final in the coffin. Love Island has had sucide's also but ITV kept carried on with safe-guarding. However, they they have casting agents who go around looking for pretty boys and girls. You never see a guy with a Dad bod, callus on his hands and lines on his face from strees from hardwork on these shows.

I guess they need the social media money and gulliable youths.

No man or woman is worth fighting IMHO, if they cheated once, it's still cheating just leave them. When I did see Kyle Show it was very few and between.

You could tell the guests were from were poor estates where there was not any local jobs around. Everyone knows each other and the same woman has kissed or flirted with numerous neighbours in the same tower block. Maybe for attention or for ciggies and some money for the electric meter.

So booze and sex is probably all they could do kill time, apart from the Jobcentre and some job searches for the week.

Kyle, never should of been giving the gig, he was a gambler himself, had a few affairs so did his ex's.

Your boss sounds like a hooligan Marcus.

Green Man wrote:
steveimp wrote:
I do know a family that went on the show (not on a normal type episode mind) and they had nothing but praise for the producers and staff for not just the care they got before and during filming but after as well. When the family's daughter died not long after filming, the production team even got back in touch with them to help them as much as they could. They did go over and beyond.

That is interesting, they could do well if they wanted but they should have stuck with that. The couple I knew had a of issues, that could have been dealt with off-screen, with a councillor not on camera.

The brothers who I knew go back to when I was a kid. Some people do not grow up, fighting over some girl is what hormonal teens do, not full grown adults.

I think given the IQ of many who went on if the help was offered by the production team it would never be taken up.

Wyot wrote:
Yes I think the format itself is revolting too Marcus. That they may support with the aftermath when aware of it does not take away from this, and to the cynical mind - may be done for publicity.

I'd go further and say the watcher - I mean regular not accidental such as yourself- is complicit in the abuse.



Aftershow care, oh do me a favour!

It's a bit like getting viciously mugged in the street and left with cuts and bruises only for the attacker to then feign a sympathetic look back at you and toss a packet of bandages at you to tend the wounds he just inflicted.

Chris wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:




Aftershow care, oh do me a favour!

It's a bit like getting viciously mugged in the street and left with cuts and bruises only for the attacker to then feign a sympathetic look back at you and toss a packet of bandages at you to tend the wounds he just inflicted.

Yep, very well summed up Chris.

Kyle...Vine ???

Christ I hope its not dementia.