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TOPIC: Starmer's hardness
#248495
hedda

Starmer's hardness 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I think the UK voted in what will turn out to be Britain's nastiest PM who has already proclaimed that Labour is "for the working class" (ie those with a job) when the British PM and whatever party is in power is bloody well voted in to serve every British citizen no matter their class or situation..

His latest statements that those who are disabled, sick should "look for a job" are a scary indication that Labour will crack down hard on those with long term illness yet because of the Tories decimation of the beloved NHS started by the ghastly Tony Blair care for the ill has become a complicated mess..some statistics are..

6.39m are awaiting hospital appointments.

2.8m are chronically ill.

endless statistics prove that the run down NHS is badly failing the ill.

..there are a host of reasons the genuinely ill are dying because of the inadequacies of the once venerated NHS.

Oz is so lucky (and so am I) with it's Medicare based on the NHS but with not a single part privatized and no politician of any stripe daring to, it hums along beautifully.

Not only do I get such superb treatment at no cost at point of use, I'm often supplied with Taxi cards to get to difficult areas of need.
 
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#248503
Wyot

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
hedda wrote:
I think the UK voted in what will turn out to be Britain's nastiest PM

I fear you are correct Hedda.

So interesting how much more you can detect about someone when they get to PM. The lens of scrutiny is so tight.

He does come across to me as thin-skinned (disastrous for a PM), unpleasant, far too serious (about himself) and dare I say not particularly bright...
 
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#248504
Downing Street Cat

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Starmer---the unenviable. Not only as dull as ditch water but pretty damned unpleasant too. And for God's sake I wish he'd blow his nose.
 
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#248934
Peter

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months, 1 Week ago  
Some people are describing Starmer as the other cheek of the same backside. I'd say he's worse than that, he's the very same arse cheek of that same backside, not the other one of the same arse.

I voted Labour in July. The biggest mistake I ever made at the ballot box. Keir Starmer needs to go NOW
 
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#248935
Green Man

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months, 1 Week ago  
He promised us he will smash the gangs. 970 odd came over the yesterday on 17 boats. It must have looked like a Regatta race yesterday.
 
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#248951
hedda

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Supporters of Free Gear Keith are pointing out the freebies he received are nothing like those various Tories have received but really it just shows Starmer & Labour can be bought for much less than the Conservatives.
 
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#248974
Green Man

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Peter wrote:
Some people are describing Starmer as the other cheek of the same backside. I'd say he's worse than that, he's the very same arse cheek of that same backside, not the other one of the same arse.

I voted Labour in July. The biggest mistake I ever made at the ballot box. Keir Starmer needs to go NOW


Many people on social media are regretting their tick for Labour.
 
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#248984
Rich

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Green Man wrote:
He promised us he will smash the gangs. 970 odd came over the yesterday on 17 boats. It must have looked like a Regatta race yesterday.

It's a gigantic failure of statecraft isn't it. These are large village population numbers appearing illegally each day. At that rate per day it would take just over a thousand days to reach a million people. Less than 3 years. Absolutely shameful. I wonder how different the approach to this would have been under a Labour Government in the 1970's if it had happened under Wilson or Callaghan. I even think Tony Blair would have got a big grip in the late 90's or early 00's.

Has the UK political class got a death wish? Just what is their real game here? What was it during 2018-19 that started this off in the first place, under let's not forget a Tory government led by the hapless Theresa May, plus Johnson. The English Channel and rubber dinghies have always existed long before just five or six years ago.

The Poles managed to put a stop to Belarus trying to bring people to the border and push them across into Poland a couple of years back, on a land border, yet the island nation UK can't manage ours. Rubbish. Nothing is impossible when there is determination and the willpower to do it.
 
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#248987
Downing Street Cat

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
We have no leaders. A very dangerous phase for humanity. I doubt Thatcher or Reagan would be overseeing the current shit storm in the Middle East. They"d have sorted them out. Biden Starmer Putin Nuttyyahu. Biden and Starmer pussyfoot about...Putin and Nuttyyahu take full advantage. Strength has gone AWOL. We are left with stammering and stuttering sweaty statements from very weak men. The world deserves and desperately needs much better. Ffs.
 
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#248990
Al Gershwin

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Bearing in mind that Starmer is PM for just three months - after the Tories were in power for 14 years, leaving a National Debt of c£2.4T - are people not being rather quick to judge?
 
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#248998
Green Man

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:
Bearing in mind that Starmer is PM for just three months - after the Tories were in power for 14 years, leaving a National Debt of c£2.4T - are people not being rather quick to judge?

Yet, Labour is still finding millions every day to house the boat people.

Smashing the gangs, Labour are doing granny bashing instead.
 
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#249000
Wyot

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:
Bearing in mind that Starmer is PM for just three months - after the Tories were in power for 14 years, leaving a National Debt of c£2.4T - are people not being rather quick to judge?

Yes I agree with you Barney they are; but most people are quick to judge now with no attention span. Just how it is.
 
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#249029
Green Man

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Starmer is less popular than Farage? I like to know the number of Labour voters who have buyers remorse. SKY News were having orgasms when they saw the exit poll. When I see bits of SKY News on Youtube,they now bitch about Starmer, same with the left wing rags like The Mirror and Guardian at times.

I want to know why people saw a pot of gold if Labour got in. All parties are the same, it's like someone gave you these choices of an STD; you can choose between syphilis, herpes or super gonorrhea.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/keir-starmer-unpopula...c-nigel-farage-poll/
 
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#249160
Green Man

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
It seems the Labour rag the Independent can't help Starmer, normally they would of put a spin on things.

I love this reader's comment, one of many Labour voters who regret their choice. It makes you wonder if they wanted to put their tick in the box for Reform or an Indie. I bet deep down they wanted him to smash the gangs as promised, Starmer couldn't slam a back door.

I voted for Labour and was full of optimism it would be a change for the good. So far, not so.

I'm dreading the budget and how it will affect the poor, sick and disabled. Life was bad enough for them under the corrupt and self-serving Tories and now it looks as if life will become even harder for them.

I now wish I'd abstained from voting as I feel that not only have I let myself down through voting Labour, I've also let down those who most needed positive change in their lives.


www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/s...t-gray-b2627755.html
 
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#249176
Wyot

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Green Man wrote:
Starmer is less popular than Farage? I like to know the number of Labour voters who have buyers remorse. SKY News were having orgasms when they saw the exit poll. When I see bits of SKY News on Youtube,they now bitch about Starmer, same with the left wing rags like The Mirror and Guardian at times.

I want to know why people saw a pot of gold if Labour got in. All parties are the same, it's like someone gave you these choices of an STD; you can choose between syphilis, herpes or super gonorrhea.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/keir-starmer-unpopula...c-nigel-farage-poll/


I don't think people saw a pot of gold GM they were just desperate after such a farce of Tory governance for so many years. I still think Starmer could turn it around if he focuses on improving core services and implements grown up relationships with the rest of the world.

But he must stop this doom-laden, Cromwellisn crap and start taking responsibility.
 
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#249186
Al Gershwin

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
he must stop this doom-laden, Cromwellisn crap and start taking responsibility

Sadly, he must do a lot more than that! Having inherited a £2.47T debt from the Tories (which will never be repaid), he must - at all costs - pay the interest on it.

Otherwise, the UK would lose its international credit rating - creating massive problems. This interest amounts to close to £2b (£2,000,000,000) a WEEK.

Many are saying that this may prove impossible - with the urgent investment needed for the NHS, the HR2 spending, the migration problems and the cost of living.
 
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#249210
Wyot

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:
Wyot wrote:
he must stop this doom-laden, Cromwellisn crap and start taking responsibility

Sadly, he must do a lot more than that! Having inherited a £2.47T debt from the Tories (which will never be repaid), he must - at all costs - pay the interest on it.

Otherwise, the UK would lose its international credit rating - creating massive problems. This interest amounts to close to £2b (£2,000,000,000) a WEEK.

Many are saying that this may prove impossible - with the urgent investment needed for the NHS, the HR2 spending, the migration problems and the cost of living.


It is what he must do if he wishes to prosper politically. This is not the same thing as "fixing things". Indeed, has little to do with it.
 
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#249213
Sally Nice

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Covid costs increased the National Debt dramatically. Very badly handled.

But the last government, in a long era - to turn the perennial budget deficit into a surplus - was a Labour one.

Blair/Brown: Since then, we've been borrowing to pay our bills!
 
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#249215
Simon

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
You don't get a second chance at a first impression.

Starmer blew it. Bad now, wait until after 30th October.
 
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#249216
Wyot

Re:Starmer's hardness 8 Months ago  
Simon wrote:
You don't get a second chance at a first impression.

Starmer blew it. Bad now, wait until after 30th October.


Yep I think you are correct Simon.
In this instant judgment day and age he has blown it with the majority already.
 
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