I have liked Gaston, Dan and William best but all 6 (now 5) have been terrific. And isn't Gregg an excellent host?

I'm surprised they haven't pulled the series, as they have already pulled the Christmas masterchef specials. I can't imagine masterchef without Gregg Wallace. Its like Top Gear without Clarkson. It will fail if and when he is replaced resulting in 100s of job losses and millions of disappointed fans. GB News and the right-wing tabloids are using this as an excuse to bash the BBC, but the programme is produced by an independent company called Banijay, who would deal with any complaints. For an established programme like Masterchef, any complaints wouldn't get back to the BBC, so they shouldn't be to blame.

I wouldn't be surprised if Masterchef will be phased out.

Top Gear was sour even when Clarkson was hosting it. When I tried watching Masterchef when I was working in hospitality, the programme kept sending me asleep every time without fail.

I hate how Torrode, Wareing etc are all wading in and distancing themselves. Just as distasteful as groping a woman's bum without permission. I shan't be watching the show anymore for that reason, not Wallace.

Wyot wrote:
I hate how Torrode, Wareing etc are all wading in and distancing themselves. Just as distasteful as groping a woman's bum without permission. I shan't be watching the show anymore for that reason, not Wallace.

A far as I can make out, he didn't actually touch anyone, did he?

I dont know why they have cancelled the Christmas shows when Wallace haters can simply switch channels.
I have avoided every single episode with ease.

robbiex wrote:
I'm surprised they haven't pulled the series, as they have already pulled the Christmas masterchef specials. I can't imagine masterchef without Gregg Wallace. Its like Top Gear without Clarkson. It will fail if and when he is replaced resulting in 100s of job losses and millions of disappointed fans. GB News and the right-wing tabloids are using this as an excuse to bash the BBC, but the programme is produced by an independent company called Banijay, who would deal with any complaints. For an established programme like Masterchef, any complaints wouldn't get back to the BBC, so they shouldn't be to blame.


Disasterchef, tonight making a Sticky Situation Pudding.

BBC likes to pretend they look at complaints themselves but complaints are handled through a separate company called Capita I believe, who are rather useless. Complaints to them are quite often mishandled or deliberately sanitised in some way, or mainly just ignored completely so that often your complaint does not have the impact you wish it to have. I was told this by someone who made a couple of BBC complaints about a few years ago. Something Peter Hitchens said here earlier this year matches what I was told as far back as 2017.

x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1763522428594983290


As far as I'm concerned things like Masterchef and cookery shows belong on daytime TV. Wasn't Masterchef originally a Sunday late afternoon programme with Loyd Grossman. Too many daytime formats have come onto evening prime time schedules and I don't like or think things like this show should be anywhere near a BBC1 primetime slot. Anyway, is it about the bloody food or not, it sounds like people are more interested in the personalities involved.

Now if you want to see proper cooking on TV in action feast your eyes on this, I watched these on BBC iPlayer last Christmas and they are still on it, a very amusing and enjoyable watch including a mute non talking assistant who looks submissive and terrified of Fanny. I guarantee you will be amused by this five parter series of 14 minute episodes. Fanny knows best! She does Peiit Fours, Royal Mincemeat, Christmas Cake, Christmas Pudding and finally "Your Christmas Bird". It feels a bit comic at times to me.

Fanny Cooks For Christmas - December 1975.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p05jvnwl/f...ries-1-5-petit-fours

(she passed at Christmastime 30 years ago this month in December 1994)

Now Wallace's ghost writer comes out squawking 'sexual harassment'. Wont do her any harm..gets her name out there. Maybe someone will come out next with a Wallace Al Fayed sandwich of abuse.

Rich wrote:
robbiex wrote:
I'm surprised they haven't pulled the series, as they have already pulled the Christmas masterchef specials. I can't imagine masterchef without Gregg Wallace. Its like Top Gear without Clarkson. It will fail if and when he is replaced resulting in 100s of job losses and millions of disappointed fans. GB News and the right-wing tabloids are using this as an excuse to bash the BBC, but the programme is produced by an independent company called Banijay, who would deal with any complaints. For an established programme like Masterchef, any complaints wouldn't get back to the BBC, so they shouldn't be to blame.


Disasterchef, tonight making a Sticky Situation Pudding.

BBC likes to pretend they look at complaints themselves but complaints are handled through a separate company called Capita I believe, who are rather useless. Complaints to them are quite often mishandled or deliberately sanitised in some way, or mainly just ignored completely so that often your complaint does not have the impact you wish it to have. I was told this by someone who made a couple of BBC complaints about a few years ago. Something Peter Hitchens said here earlier this year matches what I was told as far back as 2017.

x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1763522428594983290


As far as I'm concerned things like Masterchef and cookery shows belong on daytime TV. Wasn't Masterchef originally a Sunday late afternoon programme with Loyd Grossman. Too many daytime formats have come onto evening prime time schedules and I don't like or think things like this show should be anywhere near a BBC1 primetime slot. Anyway, is it about the bloody food or not, it sounds like people are more interested in the personalities involved.

Now if you want to see proper cooking on TV in action feast your eyes on this, I watched these on BBC iPlayer last Christmas and they are still on it, a very amusing and enjoyable watch including a mute non talking assistant who looks submissive and terrified of Fanny. I guarantee you will be amused by this five parter series of 14 minute episodes. Fanny knows best! She does Peiit Fours, Royal Mincemeat, Christmas Cake, Christmas Pudding and finally "Your Christmas Bird". It feels a bit comic at times to me.

Fanny Cooks For Christmas - December 1975.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p05jvnwl/f...ries-1-5-petit-fours

(she passed at Christmastime 30 years ago this month in December 1994)


I love this.

She is wrong about the turkey though. They are ALL wrong about the turkey.

Snap the bones, flatten it out and cook it upside down so there are no thick and thin pieces cooking at different rates and the breast can't dry out.
Easiest thing in the world.

Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
I hate how Torrode, Wareing etc are all wading in and distancing themselves. Just as distasteful as groping a woman's bum without permission. I shan't be watching the show anymore for that reason, not Wallace.

A far as I can make out, he didn't actually touch anyone, did he?



It seems I have predictive powers Honey and Wallace did not, allegedly, restrict himself to waving his sock confined meat and two veg...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy47dz8yp4vo

Wyot wrote:
I hate how Torrode, Wareing etc are all wading in and distancing themselves. Just as distasteful as groping a woman's bum without permission. I shan't be watching the show anymore for that reason, not Wallace.
I see nothing wrong with them distancing themselves, if they weren't engaging in the same behaviour as Wallace or weren't aware of what he was doing and want to make that clear. If they were aware and turned a blind eye, then that is to be condemned.

I watched Newsnight last night, an interview with Wallace's ghostwriter. If she's telling the truth, and that was my impression, Wallace really must be a digusting creep.

Jo wrote:
Wyot wrote:
I hate how Torrode, Wareing etc are all wading in and distancing themselves. Just as distasteful as groping a woman's bum without permission. I shan't be watching the show anymore for that reason, not Wallace.
I see nothing wrong with them distancing themselves, if they weren't engaging in the same behaviour as Wallace or weren't aware of what he was doing and want to make that clear. If they were aware and turned a blind eye, then that is to be condemned.

I watched Newsnight last night, an interview with Wallace's ghostwriter. If she's telling the truth, and that was my impression, Wallace really must be a digusting creep.

If they knew and said nothing wading in now makes them hypocrites. If they did not know then surely, until anything is established, a dignified silence would be preferable and more worthy for a man they have worked alongside for decades...

Jo wrote:
Wyot wrote:
I hate how Torrode, Wareing etc are all wading in and distancing themselves. Just as distasteful as groping a woman's bum without permission. I shan't be watching the show anymore for that reason, not Wallace.
I see nothing wrong with them distancing themselves, if they weren't engaging in the same behaviour as Wallace or weren't aware of what he was doing and want to make that clear. If they were aware and turned a blind eye, then that is to be condemned.

I watched Newsnight last night, an interview with Wallace's ghostwriter. If she's telling the truth, and that was my impression, Wallace really must be a digusting creep.


I would really prefer to take everybody at their word and assume truth all round until it is proven, but this woman, an independent writer, carried on working for the man, finished his book, and only mentioned it once the hoo-ha was in full swing?
I think I can hear the bucket of compo money jangling.

Maybe they've been asked for comment. To say "I'm saying nothing until the facts have been established" would probably bring condemnation as it would imply they think the accusations are false.

Honey wrote:
I would really prefer to take everybody at their word and assume truth all round until it is proven, but this woman, an independent writer, carried on working for the man, finished his book, and only mentioned it once the hoo-ha was in full swing?
I think I can hear the bucket of compo money jangling.
She said in the interview that she had decided to go on with the ghostwriting job because she needed to pay her bills and had turned down other jobs for it. She also said that Wallace had required her to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Plus she mentioned embarrassment over the whole thing and how excruciating it was to go public. There was no mention of any kind of any longterm harmful effect on her, so I didn't have the impression she'd be after compo. She said that she wasn't being paid for the interview.

Jo wrote:
Honey wrote:
I would really prefer to take everybody at their word and assume truth all round until it is proven, but this woman, an independent writer, carried on working for the man, finished his book, and only mentioned it once the hoo-ha was in full swing?
I think I can hear the bucket of compo money jangling.
She said in the interview that she had decided to go on with the ghostwriting job because she needed to pay her bills and had turned down other jobs for it. She also said that Wallace had required her to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Plus she mentioned embarrassment over the whole thing and how excruciating it was to go public. There was no mention of any kind of any longterm harmful effect on her, so I didn't have the impression she'd be after compo. She said that she wasn't being paid for the interview.
Another thing: she's unlikely to be jumping on the bandwagon with an invented story because she'd e-mailed a friend just after the events with a description of what Wallace had done.