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Rich

Re:so odd 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
hedda wrote:
Donald Trump is like Chauncey Gardiner out of the film "Being There" who spouts nonsense and absurdities that people take for profound truths.

Well over here Keir Starmer could talk gibberish in the voice of a teletubby for all I care but if he delivers on things that really matter on the ground for most people on quality of life issues then that's what matters. The same with Trump.
 
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#254339
Wyot

Re:so odd 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Rich wrote:
[quote]hedda wrote:


Well over here Keir Starmer could talk gibberish in the voice of a teletubby for all I care but if he delivers on things that really matter on the ground for most people on quality of life issues then that's what matters. The same with Trump.


I disagree Rich as I believe morality and intelligence (which can be measured through verbal efficacy) to be important facets in a world leader that, where absent, are unlikely to lead to improved "quality of life" (whatever that means) for anyone.

Setting this old-fashioned notion aside, let us hope your implication is correct and, following one presidential term and the commencement of his second, we begin to see Trump do anything that improves the quality of life of anyone, other than himself or his family or those with dirt on him...

I would be interested for any such instances to be brought to our attention here...
 
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#254349
Rich

Re:so odd 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
People used to take the mickey out of President Ronald Reagan, none more so than Spitting Image in the 80's but looking at him now he seems a seriously strong historical figure of stature and he managed to speak and articulate himself unbelievably well during his Presidency. He had the right touch about him in moments that mattered, none more so than when the Challenger space shuttle exploded this week back in 1986 and he gave a magnificent speech from the Oval Office that night. Maybe we need another actor as President.

Trump sort of manages it in his own unique manner, possibly puts on a bit of a public facing act, but I don't think it comes across as well but there was one moment in that election which I think was a game changer for a lot of people and it was when he was in that McDonalds and especially when he was serving at the drive through hatch. That moment should not be underestimated.
 
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Wyot

Re:so odd 3 Weeks ago  
I don't think there are many similaritues between Reagan (who seemed a decent man) and Trump...

I don't believe that Reagan was nasty and immoral...
 
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#254383
hedda

Re:so odd 3 Weeks ago  
Wyot wrote:
I don't think there are many similaritues between Reagan (who seemed a decent man) and Trump...

I don't believe that Reagan was nasty and immoral...


Reagan was responsible, like Thatcher who did the same, for the decimation of so much sensible policy.

Reganomics like Thatherism has been the bane of modern politics and it's ghastly destruction continues unabated.

The difference was Ronald Reagan was just a vessel for the policies of others whereas Thatcher really believed in her destructive policies.

Reagan did have a high likeability factor and certainly was charming.

The actor James Garner was Reagan's deputy when he was president of the Actor's Union (which was very left wing).

Garner said Reagan was one of the dumbest men he ever met.
 
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Green Man

Re:so odd 3 Weeks ago  
Wyot wrote:
I don't think there are many similaritues between Reagan (who seemed a decent man) and Trump...

I don't believe that Reagan was nasty and immoral...


Can I go down the conspiracy route Wyot?
 
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Green Man

Re:so odd 3 Weeks ago  
Rich wrote:
People used to take the mickey out of President Ronald Reagan, none more so than Spitting Image in the 80's but looking at him now he seems a seriously strong historical figure of stature and he managed to speak and articulate himself unbelievably well during his Presidency. He had the right touch about him in moments that mattered, none more so than when the Challenger space shuttle exploded this week back in 1986 and he gave a magnificent speech from the Oval Office that night. Maybe we need another actor as President.

Trump sort of manages it in his own unique manner, possibly puts on a bit of a public facing act, but I don't think it comes across as well but there was one moment in that election which I think was a game changer for a lot of people and it was when he was in that McDonalds and especially when he was serving at the drive through hatch. That moment should not be underestimated.


You know Challenger was a Pysops Rich.

I have to be careful what I say or JK will send the men with shades round.
 
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