It was all lies and so blatant.

There is no cease fire..the killings just go on and on at the same rate as Israel continues to destroy what little is left of Gaza.

But it's worse as they've give the green light to the insane Zionist settlers to invade the West Bank and kill Palestinians or drive them from their homes.

Trump has no idea how he is going to stop the Ukraine War and has given the green light to the deranged Netanyahu.

It was just all babble and waffle in his endless rallies.
Putin must be laughing.

Meanwhile farmers in the South and citrus farmers in California have lost up to 75% of agricultural workers who have failed to turn up for work after ICE trucks were spotted combing the areas.

The crops are already rotting.

And this is just week one.

Coming up, tariff wars with Mexico and Canada so good luck those wanting rebuild their LA homes when the price of Canadian timber sky rockets let alone gas imports (the US can probably get oil elsewhere but apparently the Canadian oil is easy to refine)..and the produce that pours in from Mexico sends prices sky high.

This is like a Great Re-Set..an obvious plan to drive down wages and get the American poor (there are millions) living off food stamps out picking fruit etc.

1000s of farmers will go bust in the meantime but corporations will step in..as they have in the past..to buy up 100 of thousands of acres. Bill Gates is good at that.

It's all a risky gamble though as to whether it works or implodes.

# whatever happened to the legendary "Deep State" of a 100 rallies that Trump was going to delete but was simply forgotten within weeks of his first term and never mentioned again.

American voters are spectacularly uninformed.

Your last line there Hedda. That's just the old Brexit style didn't know what they were voting for spiel, just attached to Trump now. Is this how it's going to be with those on the losing side now in anything? Actually, no, not quite. Because I haven't heard the same said by opponents of this Labour government for example. I wouldn't dream of suggesting those who voted for him and that party didn't know what they were voting for, I'm sure nearly all of them did, even though it's now all falling apart. They were just bloody fools because they knew what they were voting for and still did it. At least I knew for sure what I was not voting for.

Er…

After Brexit Vote, Britain Googles 'What Is The EU?' : All Tech Considered Google Trends shows that this was the second-searched EU-related question in the United Kingdom after polls closed. The first was "What does it mean to leave the EU?"

Jo wrote:
Er…

After Brexit Vote, Britain Googles 'What Is The EU?' : All Tech Considered Google Trends shows that this was the second-searched EU-related question in the United Kingdom after polls closed. The first was "What does it mean to leave the EU?"

Hilarious Jo and I am not at all surprised.

Why can't these two statements be true?

1. People are ignorant in large numbers about Trump's actual policies (or Brexit).

AND

2. Those who opposed Brexit and think Trump is dreadful can be arrogantly dismissive of the intelligence and educational levels of their supporters.

Answer. They can and are.

I see Musk , who seems to have no loyalty to any country (and I reckon means he will inevitably become toxic and need an awful lot of body guards) has been preaching to the far right AfD rally in Germany telling them Germany wastes too much time thinking about the past.

I wonder what Israel and Jewish groups think about that?

Plenty of vision of the released Israeli hostages shows them to be smiling (I suppose they would under any circumstances) and rosy faces, all seemingly have put on weight.

They even. bizarrely, carried "gift bags" from Hamas.

Released Palestinian "prisoners" however look gaunt and unhealthy. Including the children. picked up for grievous crimes like throwing a rock at a tank.

One Palestinian who was released was re-arrested and hour later.

Jo wrote:
Er…

After Brexit Vote, Britain Googles 'What Is The EU?' : All Tech Considered Google Trends shows that this was the second-searched EU-related question in the United Kingdom after polls closed. The first was "What does it mean to leave the EU?"

Probably all those arrogant remainers who were so sure we wouldn't vote to leave that they never bothered to really think about it much until it became a reality to hit them full in the face.

Anyway a possible referendum was signalled years in advance and the campaign itself lasted FOUR MONTHS from February to June 2016 so for anyone deeply invested in the subject and outcome, if they didn't do their own research in all those months or listen to a range of thoughts about what it would entail then that's their own fault.

But the question "What is the EU?" is a good one, because that was not an organisation that the UK joined in the first place and bore little resemblance to what the UK didn't vote to join but entered in 1973.

If remainers love the EU they can also get on a plane to Ireland or get a rubber boat to France. Maybe the French Navy might pick up Brits on the Channel and take them to France.

I'm a Remainer GM and I love Europe and, as you know, spend many months there each year. I think calling a referendum on something that unimportant for people to decide whether to make a monumental change was stupid. We were in the EU and should have stayed in it, not rocked the (small) boat. But it's not important enough to make me want to change my home after 80 years (and having paid several million in taxes). I can never understand people who say things like "if you're than much a supporter of Ukrainians, why don't you let one live with you?". Human beings seem incredibly simplistic these days.

Brexiteers love Europe too JK. It's the dictatorial bureaucracy and creeping tentacles of that organisation that we didn't want.

I'm happy to give Trump a slight pass.

He has cancelled cancer research and dismantled AIDS aid but he didn't raise the price of Insulin to $100s as reported.

He did claim he actually lowered the price of insulin in his first term..which he did to $54 a month.

Biden lowered it further to $35 where it remains.

Rich wrote:


But the question "What is the EU?" is a good one, because that was not an organisation that the UK joined in the first place and bore little resemblance to what the UK didn't vote to join but entered in 1973.

It may well be a good question Rich, but it was not the reason why so many googled "what is the EU?" following Brexit...

hedda wrote:
Plenty of vision of the released Israeli hostages shows them to be smiling (I suppose they would under any circumstances) and rosy faces, all seemingly have put on weight.

They even. bizarrely, carried "gift bags" from Hamas.



Oh Hedda seriously...

I am as appalled by the Israeli response as anyone but you are better than than this...

Rich wrote:
Brexiteers love Europe too JK. It's the dictatorial bureaucracy and creeping tentacles of that organisation that we didn't want.

So we will just stick with our own dictatorial bureaucracy and add all the problems of leaving on top...

Brilliant.

Nearly 9 years later.

I'm beginning to think that some people will still be angry and wanting to discuss the Brexit vote even if we end up rejoining and even re-Brexiting yet again in the future.

None of the current doom about our country has anything to do with the fact we are no longer in the European Union. But we are still a European nation and I am very happy we are.

So it looks like Trump's deportation of illegal immigrants is just another giant scam from the con artist.

His ICE agents are only targeting blue (Democrat) Sates when the vast bulk of immigrants are in Republican Florida and Texas.

And his efforts so far have not equaled Biden's efforts and certainly not the King of deportations who no-one has yet matched, Barack O'Bama.

The Comb Over Crybaby has to date deported around 500 a day while Biden during 4 years deported about 600 a day. Biden had over 400 flights alone to Colombia during 4 years.

I reckon Trump will ignore the vast industry of over a million illegal migrant workers in the Southern states after initially freaking them out.

Business as usual.

Rich wrote:
Nearly 9 years later.

I'm beginning to think that some people will still be angry and wanting to discuss the Brexit vote even if we end up rejoining and even re-Brexiting yet again in the future.

None of the current doom about our country has anything to do with the fact we are no longer in the European Union. But we are still a European nation and I am very happy we are.

I'm not angry at all about Brexit Rich just expressing my views on an issue that, along with others not solely, is a current reason for our malaise.

Wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Plenty of vision of the released Israeli hostages shows them to be smiling (I suppose they would under any circumstances) and rosy faces, all seemingly have put on weight.

They even. bizarrely, carried "gift bags" from Hamas.



Oh Hedda seriously...

I am as appalled by the Israeli response as anyone but you are better than than this...

But what I said is fact. I suppose an inaccurate image could be created. But Israel lies always..false accusations of rape (while openly admitting to using rape of Palestinians in jails) and falsehoods of decapitated babies with Biden bizarrely saying he saw the photos yet Israel finally admitted it was a false claim.

How the Israeli hostages look is a contrast to how the Palestinian "prisoners" look, skinny, gaunt and haunted. The Israelis actually admit they keep them in terrible conditions on purpose and for years without charge.

And this is not support for Hamas but Hamas is the result of the decades of how Israel has treated Palestinians and the numerous Israeli killings without ever being held to account. It's what happens.

And now we know what Trump had planned all along. Ethnic Cleansing on steroids.
I wonder how he's going to bully Egypt and Jordon.

If he can threaten peaceful Denmark over Greenland like a Mafia kingpin.."nice country you have there, shame if something happened to it" God only knows what he has in mind for Jordon and Egypt.

hedda wrote:
Wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Plenty of vision of the released Israeli hostages shows them to be smiling (I suppose they would under any circumstances) and rosy faces, all seemingly have put on weight.

They even. bizarrely, carried "gift bags" from Hamas.



Oh Hedda seriously...

I am as appalled by the Israeli response as anyone but you are better than than this...

But what I said is fact. I suppose an inaccurate image could be created. But Israel lies always..false accusations of rape (while openly admitting to using rape of Palestinians in jails) and falsehoods of decapitated babies with Biden bizarrely saying he saw the photos yet Israel finally admitted it was a false claim.

How the Israeli hostages look is a contrast to how the Palestinian "prisoners" look, skinny, gaunt and haunted. The Israelis actually admit they keep them in terrible conditions on purpose and for years without charge.

And this is not support for Hamas but Hamas is the result of the decades of how Israel has treated Palestinians and the numerous Israeli killings without ever being held to account. It's what happens.



I don't disagree with what you are saying about Israel Hedda, though we have to be cautious about media coverage, written and visual. Similarly regarding the much covered horrors committed by Hamas; a vile death cult.

However, I think the accumulatedweight of commentators (or posts) becomes problematic when only one side is ever mentioned pejoratively; because the effect is to "sanitise" the other side, even if unintentionally.

Yes some Israelis can persecute Palestinians on a scale that some (Hamas) Palestinians can't persecute Israelis - because they don't have the might. Scale driven by resources (not morality) is the only distinction.

Hamas would blow Israel off the map tomorrow if able to.

Whatever the reality about who started what, the situation can only improve if no ground is given when faced with evil. Both sides should be consistently called out.

Of course the current war was kicked off by Hamas brutal actions.

But Netanyahu has used it as an excuse to raise Gaza to the ground and commit a genocide on the Palestinian people, especially the children.

And the crazed settlers have used it as an excuse to freely kill in the West Bank- they are never brought to account.. and now we known the true intentions of Trump and the Israelis.

Now it has become clear they want to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank and force neighboring countries to adsorb 2 million people.

Trump truly is a monster.