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Calvin Robinson was sacked from a right leaning UK broadcaster but now he's been defrocked from an 'Anglo Catholic' church in Michigan for giving an exact copy of Musk's "from the heart" salute.
What on earth is wrong with people that don't understand that salute offends millions of people?
It's actually a crime in Germany and Austria & now Australia and carries a jail sentence.
Yet people post still pics of other notable names with their arm raised in the air without any context and as though that..what?.. justifies a Fascist salute or that all those in the pics must therefore be fascists?
Still people claim it was really just a salute implying "from the heart" (which is actually what the Nazis were saying !) or that it's a "Roman salute" which was picked up by Mussolini who put the salute into circulation to embrace..Fascism.
Mind you Musk did say at the far right German party AfD that Germany should desist thinking about the past now while warning against race mixing.
Have you actually seen the from the heart salute he gave? I have and it's even less like a nazi heil Hitler than Musk's was.
If you or anyone else seriously believe Calvin Robinson to be a nazi sympathiser, or that Musk is, then you are looking at the world through some very strange coloured glasses with dodgy lenses.
Many of the people making these allegations know full well that deep down they don't believe them about Musk or now Calvin Robinson. Is it really now too risky to raise your outstretched arm in the air as a gesture even for a split second wthout such accusations. You can literally find images and film of HM The Queen Elizabeth II doing just the same if you try, as well as just about any politician you care to name.
hedda wrote: Calvin Robinson was sacked from a right leaning UK broadcaster but now he's been defrocked from an 'Anglo Catholic' church in Michigan for giving an exact copy of Musk's "from the heart" salute.
What on earth is wrong with people that don't understand that salute offends millions of people?
It's actually a crime in Germany and Austria & now Australia and carries a jail sentence.
Yet people post still pics of other notable names with their arm raised in the air without any context and as though that..what?.. justifies a Fascist salute or that all those in the pics must therefore be fascists?
Still people claim it was really just a salute implying "from the heart" (which is actually what the Nazis were saying !) or that it's a "Roman salute" which was picked up by Mussolini who put the salute into circulation to embrace..Fascism.
Mind you Musk did say at the far right German party AfD that Germany should desist thinking about the past now while warning against race mixing.
He did it just to get clicks. He's that sort. Only one thing worse than being talked about? Loathsome 'man of God'. As most of em are.
Rich wrote: Have you actually seen the from the heart salute he gave? I have and it's even less like a nazi heil Hitler than Musk's was.
If you or anyone else seriously believe Calvin Robinson to be a nazi sympathiser, or that Musk is, then you are looking at the world through some very strange coloured glasses with dodgy lenses.
Many of the people making these allegations know full well that deep down they don't believe them about Musk or now Calvin Robinson. Is it really now too risky to raise your outstretched arm in the air as a gesture even for a split second wthout such accusations. You can literally find images and film of HM The Queen Elizabeth II doing just the same if you try, as well as just about any politician you care to name.
This stupidity needs to stop.
I don't think Musk or the cosplay Vicar are Nazis. I just think they are ignorant shithouses.
Downing Street Cat wrote: Rich wrote: Have you actually seen the from the heart salute he gave? I have and it's even less like a nazi heil Hitler than Musk's was.
If you or anyone else seriously believe Calvin Robinson to be a nazi sympathiser, or that Musk is, then you are looking at the world through some very strange coloured glasses with dodgy lenses.
Many of the people making these allegations know full well that deep down they don't believe them about Musk or now Calvin Robinson. Is it really now too risky to raise your outstretched arm in the air as a gesture even for a split second wthout such accusations. You can literally find images and film of HM The Queen Elizabeth II doing just the same if you try, as well as just about any politician you care to name.
This stupidity needs to stop.
I don't think Musk or the cosplay Vicar are Nazis. I just think they are ignorant shithouses.
The salute Musk gave and Robinson gave was a Nazi salute and is a crime in Germany.
That exact salute.
Are they Nazis? Who knows. They are certainly right wing when Musk gives a speech to the borderline Nazi mob the AfD.
Expressing sentiments like "race mixing" is wrong and that Germany should forget aspects of the past (so close to Holocaust Remembrance Day) is pretty vile but he could be having a laugh at everyone.
Robinson on the other hand will sink into obscurity now. He's blotted his copy book..
Rich wrote: Doing it for clicks DSC? But he didn't do anything remotely newsworthy!
"Race mixing is wrong", yet Calvin is literally a mixed race person I believe he has stated.
It's elements of the fanatical left that have set race (and sexuality) issues back years, not those on the centre or right.
It was Musk, who wisely videoed in from abroad or he would have been arrested, who told the adoring extreme fascist political party the AfD that is using 1930's Nazi slogans, that race mixing shouldn't be encouraged (how do stop it? race laws like 1930's Germany?) and that Germany should forget the past.
A fascist salute is just that. There is no mistaking it despite so many trying to dowm play it.
Is Musk a fascist?. He does come from a Nazi loving family who built enormous wealth in emeralds under Apartheid.
But he's an odd character. It may all be a huge joke for him.
He does seem to have a capacity to hurt though such as his infamous "pedo guy" insult because a simple social worker saved a bunch of trapped kids and criticized Musk's ridiculous "pod" desire to rescue them.It ruined the man's life.
His treatment of Tesla and "x' workers is just nasty.
Robinson is just a right wing ratbag and one would think there is something in the fact the hard right church he was a pastor of, that they fired him specifically over the "Roman" salute and that they acknowledged the salute as being offensive.
hedda wrote: Rich wrote: Doing it for clicks DSC? But he didn't do anything remotely newsworthy!
"Race mixing is wrong", yet Calvin is literally a mixed race person I believe he has stated.
It's elements of the fanatical left that have set race (and sexuality) issues back years, not those on the centre or right.
It was Musk, who wisely videoed in from abroad or he would have been arrested, who told the adoring extreme fascist political party the AfD that is using 1930's Nazi slogans, that race mixing shouldn't be encouraged (how do stop it? race laws like 1930's Germany?) and that Germany should forget the past.
A fascist salute is just that. There is no mistaking it despite so many trying to dowm play it.
Is Musk a fascist?. He does come from a Nazi loving family who built enormous wealth in emeralds under Apartheid.
But he's an odd character. It may all be a huge joke for him.
He does seem to have a capacity to hurt though such as his infamous "pedo guy" insult because a simple social worker saved a bunch of trapped kids and criticized Musk's ridiculous "pod" desire to rescue them.It ruined the man's life.
His treatment of Tesla and "x' workers is just nasty.
Robinson is just a right wing ratbag and one would think there is something in the fact the hard right church he was a pastor of, that they fired him specifically over the "Roman" salute and that they acknowledged the salute as being offensive.
I bet if you see parents waving to their kids when they leave for school, you think it's a Nazi salute.
Green Man wrote: hedda wrote: Rich wrote: Doing it for clicks DSC? But he didn't do anything remotely newsworthy!
"Race mixing is wrong", yet Calvin is literally a mixed race person I believe he has stated.
It's elements of the fanatical left that have set race (and sexuality) issues back years, not those on the centre or right.
It was Musk, who wisely videoed in from abroad or he would have been arrested, who told the adoring extreme fascist political party the AfD that is using 1930's Nazi slogans, that race mixing shouldn't be encouraged (how do stop it? race laws like 1930's Germany?) and that Germany should forget the past.
A fascist salute is just that. There is no mistaking it despite so many trying to dowm play it.
Is Musk a fascist?. He does come from a Nazi loving family who built enormous wealth in emeralds under Apartheid.
But he's an odd character. It may all be a huge joke for him.
He does seem to have a capacity to hurt though such as his infamous "pedo guy" insult because a simple social worker saved a bunch of trapped kids and criticized Musk's ridiculous "pod" desire to rescue them.It ruined the man's life.
His treatment of Tesla and "x' workers is just nasty.
Robinson is just a right wing ratbag and one would think there is something in the fact the hard right church he was a pastor of, that they fired him specifically over the "Roman" salute and that they acknowledged the salute as being offensive.
I bet if you see parents waving to their kids when they leave for school, you think it's a Nazi salute.
I bet you have have DSS on your speed dial.
When Jewish people tell me they are scared as they recognized a Fascist salute I believe them.
1984 : "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears"
It seems to me that Musk's comments on "moving on" from the holocaust and these salutes ("joke" or not), could pave the way, particularly with the horrors Israel is committing in Gaza, to sanitising Nazi and other atrocities.
Liberals may be "hysterical" but it is for good reason. Too many people these days don't pay enough mindfulness to history being the most relevant knowledge source today to learn from.
However, I would not de-frock this priest. I loathe this "cancel culture". I would just tell him to grow up...